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Old 10-26-2009, 10:24 AM
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Read you bible and there you will find your answer which is what you should have been told to do in the first place.
yea, and create your own denomination and then you will be happy with what is taught.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:27 AM
 
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yea, and create your own denomination and then you will be happy with what is taught.
First and foremost you look for a teacher but anything is better than listening to a number of unscriptural opinions.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:36 AM
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First and foremost you look for a teacher but anything is better than listening to a number of unscriptural opinions.
Ah, but that presents some important questions. How do you determine who is qualified to teach and how do you determine if an opinion is scriptural or not?
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:40 AM
 
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Ah, but that presents some important questions. Who is qualified to teach and who determines if an opinion is scriptural or not?
That's easy as I prayed and asked God for guidance and knowledge He led me to John Macarthur, Paul Washer, Allister Begg, John Piper, Adrian Rogers, Charlse Stanley and so forth, as I grew in holiness and understanding I started to recognize good teachers and bad teachers then I do as the Bereans, and go behind them in my bible and see what they teach is the truth.
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:17 AM
 
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That's easy as I prayed and asked God for guidance and knowledge He led me to John Macarthur, Paul Washer, Allister Begg, John Piper, Adrian Rogers, Charlse Stanley and so forth, as I grew in holiness and understanding I started to recognize good teachers and bad teachers then I do as the Bereans, and go behind them in my bible and see what they teach is the truth.
There is only "One" Teacher...
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:35 AM
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That's easy as I prayed and asked God for guidance and knowledge He led me to John Macarthur, Paul Washer, Allister Begg, John Piper, Adrian Rogers, Charlse Stanley and so forth, as I grew in holiness and understanding I started to recognize good teachers and bad teachers then I do as the Bereans, and go behind them in my bible and see what they teach is the truth.
You grew in holiness? Wow, that smacks of a lack of humility. Your mentors may well be good, but I would contend that the next person would come up with different teachers and they may not agree with yours. Thus we are at an impasse using your methodology.
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:43 AM
 
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You grew in holiness? Wow, that smacks of a lack of humility. Your mentors may well be good, but I would contend that the next person would come up with different teachers and they may not agree with yours. Thus we are at an impasse using your methodology.
Lack of humility???? WOW! Now if I said, I have grown in holiness to the point that I need no more then I can see a lack of humility there. Humility is understanding I am done, wretched, vile, nothing without Christ and that He gives me the power to grow and His grace is what will save me. I have only stated what the Holy Spirit has done for me.

There is one truth out there, it is irrelevant if someone has a different "truth" than mine. Either I have the truth or I don't.
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Old 10-26-2009, 12:36 PM
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There is one truth out there, it is irrelevant if someone has a different "truth" than mine. Either I have the truth or I don't.
It is irrelevant? That is absolutely central and core to this entire thread. To every one of these threads, for that matter. Truth must be determined, therefore the authority to make that call also must be determined if the original poster will get a "truth-ful" answer.

What could be MORE relevant than having the truth or not?
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Old 10-26-2009, 12:43 PM
 
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It is irrelevant? That is absolutely central and core to this entire thread. To every one of these threads, for that matter. Truth must be determined, therefore the authority to make that call also must be determined if the original poster will get a "truth-ful" answer.

What could be MORE relevant than having the truth or not?
I didn't say, having truth or not is irrelevant. I said, it is irrelevant if another person claims to have truth. Either I have truth or don't but my truth will not waiver on the basis that someone else has a different truth than mine.
I hold truth to be of the utmost importance because of the consequences I believe in not having the truth so I make sure I have the truth.
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Old 10-26-2009, 12:50 PM
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I didn't say, having truth or not is irrelevant. I said, it is irrelevant if another person claims to have truth. Either I have truth or don't but my truth will not waiver on the basis that someone else has a different truth than mine.
I hold truth to be of the utmost importance because of the consequences I believe in not having the truth so I make sure I have the truth.
Your comments remind me of an early 80's MTV commerical slogan delivered to it's cable audience:

"Some people just don't get it."

Peace.
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