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Only an infinite punishment can satisfy an eternal God because it is an eternal offense against an eternal God. Unless you repent and receive Christ your offense stays with you and that offense is forever because God goes on forever NEVER being satified without the blood of Jesus Christ.
You lie to your children, you lose respect
You lie to your wife, you sleep on the couch or separation
You lie to your boss, you can get fired
You lie to the police, you can go to court
You lie to the judge, you can get thrown in jail
You lie to to a holy, just, eternal God, you get a holy, just eternal punishment.
Greater the authority the greater the punishment.
Last edited by Michael Way; 01-21-2010 at 12:17 PM..
They were right to stone her because that is what the law requires passed down by Moses given to him by God.
Those laws were for the unrighteous, not the righteous.
For example, Moses also told them they could write a bill of divorcement but Jesus said that law was only given only because of their unrighteousness.
The law came by Moses, grace and truth by Jesus Christ.
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This was a trap for Jesus and not having the right heart in carrying out the laws of God by that they didn't even accuse the man (it takes two to tango) furthermore yes Jesus forgave but He told her to go and sin no more. She walked away knowing her sins were forgiven and that she could live a sinless life
So the eternal authority forgave her while the vindictive authorities did not.
Only an infinite punishment can satisfy an eternal God because it is an eternal offense against an eternal God. Unless you repent and receive Christ your offense stays with you and that offense is forever because God goes on forever NEVER being satified without the blood of Jesus Christ.
You lie to your children, you lose respect
You lie to your wife, you sleep on the couch or separation
You lie to your boss, you can get fired
You lie to the police, you can go to court
You lie to the judge, you can get thrown in jail
You lie to to a holy, just, eternal God, you get a holy, just eternal punishment.
Greater the authority the greater the punishment.
Fundy, that is absurd. Who the crime is done to has more bearing than what the crime was?!? If anything, it should be based on severity of the damage done. Since we cannot harm God, God should be ultimately forgiving.
But anyways:
You kill your children, you go to jail for life
You kill your wife, you go to jail for life
You kill your boss, you go to jail for life
You kill the police, you go to jail for life
You kill a judge, you go to jail for life
You kill God... um Hey wait you can't kill God. But He still forgives you for thinking about it!
See the difference between man's ways and God's ways?
Those laws were for the unrighteous, not the righteous.
a fornicator is righteous? then what makes you unrighteous? I don't understand. Just what exactly is a righteous and an unrighteous? The rest you wrote I have no clue where you are coming from. The law came from Mose but grace Jesus......what...
Only an infinite punishment can satisfy an eternal God...
Ezekiel 16:42 So will I make my fury toward thee to rest, and my jealousy shall depart from thee, and I will be quiet, and will be no more angry.
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Greater the authority the greater the punishment.
Punishment varies based on how much was given by God, not based on how eternal God is.
Luke 12:48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.
See the difference between man's ways and God's ways?
Your understanding
The judge has a dispicable person infront of him who has committed every horrible crime that you can imagine as you sit in the court room hearing what this horrible person did to your loved one. You hear the judge say, "Sir you are the worst individual to come into my midst in my career as a judge, you have committed crimes which I can't even repeat and you have shown no remorse absolutely nothing even with your victim's families in this court room. You make my blood crawl so because I am a fair, just and loving judge I am going to let you go"
Only an infinite punishment can satisfy an eternal God because it is an eternal offense against an eternal God. Unless you repent and receive Christ your offense stays with you and that offense is forever because God goes on forever NEVER being satified without the blood of Jesus Christ.
You lie to your children, you lose respect
You lie to your wife, you sleep on the couch or separation
You lie to your boss, you can get fired
You lie to the police, you can go to court
You lie to the judge, you can get thrown in jail
You lie to to a holy, just, eternal God, you get a holy, just eternal punishment.
Greater the authority the greater the punishment.
An eternal offence ???, where did you come up with that ?.
But sin is not taken into account when there is no law. Romans 5: 13
How can sin be called an eternal offence , when before the law sin was not taken into account ?.
Death was the result of sin , not eternal seperation .
Verse 14 nevertheless death reigned from Adam to the time of Moses, death not eternal seperation reigned from Adam to the time of Moses.
You are assuming sin is eternal seperation .
Do you know what the worst thing about sin is for those of us who do not understand the grace of God ?,no it's not the thought of eternal seperation,it's the fact that it alienates our minds and causes us to live under a cloud of condemnation and death and we automatically believe God is against us , but the reality(the truth) is God loved the ungodly and demonstrated it to us while we still sinners .You see this is the message of the Cross , not that he saved us from ET but loved us at our worst , when believed(it really takes faith to believe God loves sinners) is life changing
I have gone around with you before with this banging on about sin Fundy , do you understand what we are thinking will also end up being produced in our life ? , think about that for a moment.
Why do you think it says this ?
8Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.
When we talk and think along these lines , this is what we become.
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