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Old 05-24-2012, 03:17 PM
 
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God can't force man to love.. If he did then the love, would not be true love!
Hi, yes God can force man to love Him. He has all power and reaching all hearts, is no match for Him. Yes it would be true love to open all eyes and convince, persuade, win all hearts to Himself. It is true love when a parent effectively reaches a rebellious teenager. God is so much greater and more effective than a human parent. God bless and peace.
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Old 05-24-2012, 03:23 PM
 
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Many may have to go through hell before they surrender to God's love. Love never fails.


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Old 05-24-2012, 03:31 PM
 
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Many may have to go through hell before they surrender to God's love. Love never fails.


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Sounds like you are saying Knowing Jesus Christ is heaven, Shana.
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Old 05-24-2012, 03:39 PM
 
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Hi pcamps, I shared to show that love wins in the end and that it is not wrong for God to win all hearts or cause all to surrender to Him. Sometimes we must go through hell to reach that point. God bless and peace.
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Old 05-24-2012, 04:10 PM
 
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Hi, yes God can force man to love Him. He has all power and reaching all hearts, is no match for Him. Yes it would be true love to open all eyes and convince, persuade, win all hearts to Himself. It is true love when a parent effectively reaches a rebellious teenager. God is so much greater and more effective than a human parent. God bless and peace.
ShanaBrown think it through!
Love MUST be given freely!!! Lets say..

Lets say God gave someone a "Magic Potion" a "Love Potion" the person falls in love! The LOVE the person has would not be freely given!

THINK: Scriptures tell you "God is LOVE!"
Man is made in the image of love. Only man can love.. Dog, horse, monkey, cat, snail, frog, pig etc can't love! BUT..
But they also can't hate!!

It would be against the PERFECT God to give the Magic Potion..
The perfect God can't trick a person in to loving or God would not be perfect!!!
ShanaBrown If God was NOT perfect he would not be God!

Perfect LOVE gives each person the choice.."Free Will!"

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Old 05-24-2012, 04:14 PM
 
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True love, Dogknox, does what is best for the person who is loved, according to its definition-agape. God is not tricking anyone. He is removing all blinders and binders of those who are lost and blind. This is love, to save someone who is drowning, lost, blind. True love loves one's enemies, and does good to them even when they don't love back in return, even when they are blind. When God removed our blinders and we loved Him freely. Truly love wins. And we are His workmanship, the work of His hands. God bless and peace.

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Old 05-24-2012, 04:18 PM
 
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Hi pcamps, I shared to show that love wins in the end and that it is not wrong for God to win all hearts or cause all to surrender to Him. Sometimes we must go through hell to reach that point. God bless and peace.
I agree. We cause ourselves so much distress at times through wrong decisions and lifestyle choices .
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Old 05-24-2012, 04:23 PM
 
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It would be against the PERFECT God to give the Magic Potion..
Dogknox, I don't believe that God gives a magic potion. He causes us to see our lost condition and our need for a Savior. He will open all eyes and all will one day believe and receive Him. I believe that He will effectively do this for everyone in the end and I believe that any hell that someone may experience is a part of this process. God bless and peace.
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Old 05-24-2012, 05:44 PM
 
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True love, Dogknox, does what is best for the person who is loved, according to its definition-agape. God is not tricking anyone. He is removing all blinders and binders of those who are lost and blind. This is love, to save someone who is drowning, lost, blind. True love loves one's enemies, and does good to them even when they don't love back in return, even when they are blind. When God removed our blinders and we loved Him freely. Truly love wins. And we are His workmanship, the work of His hands. God bless and peace.
That is a glorious and truthful statement. Thank you!

Heartsong
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Old 05-24-2012, 05:53 PM
 
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Right, Jesus will abolish all rule power and authority, including the rule, power, and authority of sin, satan, evil. Jesus is to fill all and therefore He "will be in hell". God bless and peace.
And if Jesus truly does abolish all rulers, power and authority, doesn't that imply that he is making all things equal -- all people equal ... I've always thought so. The great trouble in this world is inequality of rights, inequality of wealth, inequality of justice, etc... therefore, I conclude that Christ will set all things right by, as the scriptures say, leveling every mountain and filling in every valley. Of course I think that is a metaphor for what he will do for us spiritually. There will not be any haughty person standing before God - none. And that is something to be grateful for. My vision of heaven is a place where the light of God radiates from on high, illumining every being with perfect love and peace and glories streaming over his beautiful creatures in every direction. Even this world is somewhat like that if you could take the sin and death out of the way. Death is the destroyer of dreams, and the destroyer of sinful flesh. Death is like a double edged sword because while it causes us so much sorrow and suffering, it is doing its perfect work at the same time. How wise God is!
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