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Here is one of the reasons:
If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath, so that the law of Moses should not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made a man completely well on the Sabbath?
No he wasn't. He was crucified for many things, but that wasn't one of them.
Also God refers to himself in the singlular 100% of the time. There are a handful of verses where it seems to be saying that he is plural, but those are easily explained.
Maybe you have a copy of kat's book.....the book I use is called God's Word, the Bible.
Genesis 1:26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness Isaiah 6:8 Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?"
John 10:33
"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."
Luke 5:21
The Pharisees and the teachers of the law began thinking to themselves, "Who is this fellow who speaks blasphemy? Who can forgive sins but God alone?"
Mark 14:64-64
"You have heard the blasphemy. What do you think?" They all condemned him as worthy of death"
Matthew 26:65-66
Then the high priest tore his clothes and said, "He has spoken blasphemy! Why do we need any more witnesses? Look, now you have heard the blasphemy. What do you think?" "He is worthy of death," they answered.
Jesus answered "Yes" to the High Priest under oath, charged with blasphemy (claiming to be God) and was crucfied.
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Rev 21:22 I did not see a temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple
Rev 22:3 No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him.
You asked me who the "him" is in Rev. 22:3 and that the answer could be found in Rev. 21:22...
The throne is in the city but there is no temple. The throne cannot be the temple because the lamb and God are the temple.
So the people serving HIM are in the city... and both the temple (God and the Lamb) and the throne are in the city...
I don't see the neon sign in 21:22 pointing to the "him."
I do however see that the term servant is used in many other verses relating to serving God or serving other Gods...
Truly in context you could say that servitude here is akin to slavery. Slavery to God or slavery to sin.. These are the slaves to God.
And the greek agrees. The word is latreuó which is from latris (a hired menial); to minister (to God), i.e. Render religious homage -- serve, do the service, worship(-per). (from Strong's)
And in what verse do people serve the Lamb?
Therefore the HIM is GOD. I think you are taking the literal books and making them spiritual, then taking this book of symbols and making it literal. That is an error in my opinion.
But then I am really not sure what it is you want here ... so perhaps you can explain what this line of questioning has to do with the deity of Christ...
Here is one of the reasons:
If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath, so that the law of Moses should not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made a man completely well on the Sabbath?
Maybe you have a copy of kat's book.....the book I use is called God's Word, the Bible.
Genesis 1:26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness Isaiah 6:8 Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?"
John 10:33
"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."
Luke 5:21
The Pharisees and the teachers of the law began thinking to themselves, "Who is this fellow who speaks blasphemy? Who can forgive sins but God alone?"
Mark 14:64-64
"You have heard the blasphemy. What do you think?" They all condemned him as worthy of death"
Matthew 26:65-66
Then the high priest tore his clothes and said, "He has spoken blasphemy! Why do we need any more witnesses? Look, now you have heard the blasphemy. What do you think?" "He is worthy of death," they answered.
Jesus answered "Yes" to the High Priest under oath, charged with blasphemy (claiming to be God) and was crucfied.
The trumped up charge of blasphemy that they were unable to prove with two witnesses is why they gave Jesus up to the Romans.. they would have stoned him themselves if they could have found two witnesses to the blasphemy charge. We see the real reason why they plotted against him here: John 11
45Therefore many of the Jews who had come to visit Mary, and had seen what Jesus did, put their faith in him. 46But some of them went to the Pharisees and told them what Jesus had done. 47Then the chief priests and the Pharisees called a meeting of the Sanhedrin.
“What are we accomplishing?” they asked. “Here is this man performing many miraculous signs. 48If we let him go on like this, everyone will believe in him, and then the Romans will come and take away both our place/temple and our nation.” 49Then one of them, named Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, spoke up, “You know nothing at all! 50You do not realize that it is better for you that one man die for the people than that the whole nation perish.” 51He did not say this on his own, but as high priest that year he prophesied that Jesus would die for the Jewish nation, 52and not only for that nation but also for the scattered children of God, to bring them together and make them one. 53So from that day on they plotted to take his life.
You will also see in Acts 4 that Caiaphas thought that with Jesus gone the problem would be gone but indeed the word that was slain rose again in the form of his disciples. They healed the sick and the people did not say "this is Jesus who does this..." they counted it as an act from GOD. Jesus surely DID point to GOD.. THEY understood that.. why don't you?
If you look at it from a different perspective (namely from the High Priest and Elders point of view) it may shed some light on why he was killed. It was not for blasphemy because according to the Law he would have been stoned where he stood. They were going to stone a women for less if Jesus hadn't stopped them. And we see in Luke 23:4 Then Pilate announced to the chief priests and the crowd, "I find no basis for a charge against this man." as well as a third time he was found NOT worthy of death by the Romans in Luke 23:14.
It's also funny that ridiculing the accusations and the accused actually made Pilate and Herod friends when they had been enemies, according to Luke 23:12.
So how do you come to the conclusion that Jesus was killed because of blasphemy? They could not find two witnesses to confirm he claimed he was GOD because he NEVER claimed to be God.
So how do you come to the conclusion that Jesus was killed because of blasphemy? They could not find two witnesses to confirm he claimed he was GOD because he NEVER claimed to be God.
John 19:7
The Jews insisted, "We have a law, and according to that law he must die, because he claimed to be the Son of God."
John 10:33
"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."
Matthew 26:65-66 Then the high priest tore his clothes and said, "He has spoken blasphemy! Why do we need any more witnesses? Look, now you have heard the blasphemy. What do you think?" "He is worthy of death," they answered.
Jesus was claiming to be God when he said he was the Son of God. Jesus was crucified for blasphemy. Conclude whatever you want to, believers will see it, unbelievers will not.
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