How Should I Lie To You? (preacher, believer, sinners, mystic)
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RESPECT HIM. If He wants to give you heaven, He gave you heaven. If it's hell you receive, it's hell you receive. We say He's God and He's love.
I say He's God PERIOD!! Period! Giving to each of us just as we deserve, be it heaven, or be it hell. He's fair!
RESPECT HIM!!
But don't you see, Christ died for us! He paid the penalty of our sins, to God. And he did so on our behalf. While it is true that we did not deserve that Jesus should die for us, but because He did die for us, we can now approach God boldly (in faith). And we can do so clothed in Christ's righteousness that has been imputed to us, who believe. This IS what we deserve NOW, because of what Christ did for us THEN, on the cross.
The scriptures are very clear regarding this. We are to approach the throne of grace with full faith and in confidence (boldly) to obtain mercy and grace from God:
Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
But don't you see, Christ died for us! He paid the penalty of our sins, to God. And he did so on our behalf. While it is true that we did not deserve that Jesus should die for us, but because He did die for us, we can now approach God boldly (in faith). And we can do so clothed in Christ's righteousness that has been imputed to us, who believe. This IS what we deserve NOW, because of what Christ did for us THEN, on the cross.
The scriptures are very clear regarding this. We are to approach the throne of grace with full faith and in confidence (boldly) to obtain mercy and grace from God:
Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
OH YESSSS! I DO SEE!! I truly understand what you're saying here. What I want people to understand is: You cannot bypass the Son!! The same Son who died for us, we need to believe that He Is the Son of God!
To approach this same throne that you speak about, yes with full faith and confidence.....but I ask you: How can one do so knowing full well, they reject, deny, this same SON of GOD? How?
OH YESSSS! I DO SEE!! I truly understand what you're saying here. What I want people to understand is: You cannot bypass the Son!! The same Son who died for us, we need to believe that He Is the Son of God!
To approach this same throne that you speak about, yes with full faith and confidence.....but I ask you: How can one do so knowing full well, they reject, deny, this same SON of GOD? How?
God draws them....
John 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.
Thank you, I am! The good news and the not so good news. ALL OF IT!! Half truths are the same as non-truths, yes? The Whole TRUTH, nothing but......... ALL OF IT!!
Thank you, I am! The good news and the not so good news. ALL OF IT!! Half truths are the same as non-truths, yes? The Whole TRUTH, nothing but......... ALL OF IT!!
The whole truth and nothing but the truth is Good News.
The whole truth and nothing but the truth is Good News.
So as long as it's ACCORDING TO THE WORDS OF THE MOST HIGH!! Not mines, yours, or theirs mind you! For we should line up, straight as an arrow, with the words of God, not vice-versa, you understand? Bless.
So as long as it's ACCORDING TO THE WORDS OF THE MOST HIGH!! Not mines, yours, or theirs mind you! For we should line up, straight as an arrow, with the words of God, not vice-versa, you understand? Bless.
I know the whole bible is an account of Good News, think what you will of that.
I know the whole bible is an account of Good News, think what you will of that.
The Gospel or Good News is entirely embodied in the New Testament . . . NOT the OT. The OT ONLY establishes the credentials and validity of Jesus. The term "New Testament" seems to date to Tertullian in the second century or Lactantius in the third. Lactantius:
"But all Scripture is divided into two Testaments. That which preceded the advent and passion of Christ—that is, the law and the prophets—is called the Old; but those things which were written after His resurrection are named the New Testament."
The term "new covenant" is in the Bible. Among other places it can be found in Luke 22:20
This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you
and Hebrews 9:15
For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.
Galatians 3:23
But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
2 Corinthians 3:7
But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away.
2 Corinthians 3:11
For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
Romans 7:6
But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Galatians 5:14
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself
The origin of "New Testament" and the Good News (Gospel) comes from that.
The OT was necessary to establish the expectation of Jesus and predict the way His life and death would occur and the impact He would have for millennia. Jesus fulfilled all the expectations of His day and for every day since for 2000+ years. That is what fulfilling the OT means and that is what validates Christianity. The veil of ignorance that blinded our ancestors to God's TRUE NATURE from the misinterpretations of the OT was lifted by Jesus and His example and teaching. It has no further role in understanding God . . . only righteousness and providing hope . . . Jesus is the TRUE NATURE of God . . . not the heinous misunderstandings of the OT. The prophesies being fulfilled for 2000+ years despite the errors in the OT are sufficient validation.
All those heinous things attributed to God in the OT were no part of God . . . they were evil and only humans do evil. Satan's biggest weapon is human ignorance and convincing humans that to be ignorant is what God wants and prefers. Satan has convinced the ignorant that fear of God is what God wants because it eliminates any true love of God and each other in the primitive motivation of fear of wrath and punishment. It blinds them to God's loving concern and desire for us to avoid the natural consequences of our failure to mature spiritually. These heinous beliefs in scripture are proof positive that Satan is alive and well in the world and has been since the death of Jesus who came to do away with such primitive impressions of God. I weep for those who will probably hear . . ."Depart from me . . ." when they were only trying to follow God by exalting ignorance as a virtue.
Last edited by MysticPhD; 03-31-2010 at 03:02 PM..
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