Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Celebrating Memorial Day!
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality > Christianity
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 07-04-2015, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Arizona
28,956 posts, read 16,347,403 times
Reputation: 2296

Advertisements

You test the Spirit of what is being spoken or written through that which holds no bias.
Without a prejudice in favor of, or against one thing (person or group) when compared
with that of another.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-04-2015, 05:56 PM
 
18,172 posts, read 16,387,358 times
Reputation: 9328
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerwade View Post
You test the Spirit of what is being spoken or written through that which holds no bias.
Without a prejudice in favor of, or against one thing (person or group) when compared
with that of another.
True,and what is that spirit tested against? It can't be against itself, or our spirit, it needs an unbiased "touchstone" as it were. The Bible. Any other way is biased and not trust worthy as i,t will end up by being what is right in that persons mind.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-04-2015, 06:01 PM
 
10,020 posts, read 4,956,993 times
Reputation: 754
Quote:
Originally Posted by antredd View Post
In Watchtower's publication, You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth, 1989, page 190 under the heading ONE TRUE RELIGION, it asks a question regarding who are the ones who form the body of true worshipers today? Then, it answers this question stating without hesitation that the Jehovah's Witnesses are true worshipers of God.
What is your feeling about them believing that they are the only true religion or worshipers of God?
For me, the bible doesn't teach that there is only one true religion, but it does teach that Jesus is the way the truth, and the life, and no man can come to the Father, but by Him John 14:6. Did they some how leap frog over Jesus to think that they only way to God is through the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society better known as Jehovah's Witnesses?
First of all, why would any person belong to a religion unless they believed it was the right one ?

What did Jesus teach at John 4:23-24 about worship ?

Jehovah
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-04-2015, 06:52 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
21,088 posts, read 29,209,482 times
Reputation: 7812
Quote:
Originally Posted by expatCA View Post
True,and what is that spirit tested against? It can't be against itself, or our spirit, it needs an unbiased "touchstone" as it were. The Bible. Any other way is biased and not trust worthy as i,t will end up by being what is right in that persons mind.
The spirit is tested against the TWO greatest commandments Jesus gave us--

LOVE GOD

LOVE NEIGHBOR
Summarized here for the evangelical fundies who find comprehension difficult---

SIMPLY LOVE of COURSE...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-04-2015, 07:35 PM
 
18,172 posts, read 16,387,358 times
Reputation: 9328
Quote:
Originally Posted by zthatzmanz28 View Post
The spirit is tested against the TWO greatest commandments Jesus gave us--

LOVE GOD

LOVE NEIGHBOR
Summarized here for the evangelical fundies who find comprehension difficult---

SIMPLY LOVE of COURSE...
Please show where that is specifically stated in Scripture?

Next, genuine Agape love would be shown by a voiding terms like "ignorant barbarians", "Fundamentalists", a lack respect for God's written word by picking and choosing what they believe is true instead of acting like the exemplar when it comes to such love, Jesus. Just claiming to have God' spirit and having Love is no evidence of actually having it, especially if such attacks and denigration of scripture listed above is shown.

Not understanding what is written in Scripture as an accurate message of love from God, also shows a lack of God's spirit OR the one claiming it would know what some events are listed and why they "look" unloving but in actuality are loving.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-04-2015, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Arizona
28,956 posts, read 16,347,403 times
Reputation: 2296
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerwade View Post
You test the Spirit of what is being spoken or written through that which holds no bias.
Without a prejudice in favor of, or against one thing (person or group) when compared
with that of another.
Quote:
Originally Posted by expatCA View Post
True, and what is that spirit tested against? It can't be against itself, or our spirit, it needs an unbiased "touchstone" as it were. The Bible. Any other way is biased and not trust worthy, as it will end up being what is right in that persons mind.
Quote:
Originally Posted by expatCA View Post

Not understanding what is written in Scripture as an accurate message of love from God, also shows a lack of God's spirit OR the one claiming it would know what some events are listed and why they "look" unloving but in actuality are loving.
Which touchstone shall we use:

1) Annihiliatism.
2) Eternal torment.
3) Reconciliation.

Which is the most loving benchmark, or that which serves a better purpose?
We do not kill or torment our children, just because they missed the mark?

We lovingly correct them, even if it appears like fire and brimstone.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-04-2015, 10:49 PM
 
63,785 posts, read 40,047,381 times
Reputation: 7868
Quote:
Originally Posted by expatCA View Post
Please show where that is specifically stated in Scripture?
Next, genuine Agape love would be shown by a voiding terms like "ignorant barbarians", "Fundamentalists", a lack respect for God's written word by picking and choosing what they believe is true instead of acting like the exemplar when it comes to such love, Jesus. Just claiming to have God' spirit and having Love is no evidence of actually having it, especially if such attacks and denigration of scripture listed above is shown.
Not understanding what is written in Scripture as an accurate message of love from God, also shows a lack of God's spirit OR the one claiming it would know what some events are listed and why they "look" unloving but in actuality are loving.
What your posts literally scream is a love for the Bible and scriptures . . . NOT God. Your reverence for those products of human fallibility is unwarranted and is what corrupts your understanding of God and Jesus. You keep looking in the scriptures because you think in them to find eonian life . . . but they speak of Christ and He is who you should focus your reverence and love on. Remember that verse??? You are to believe Christ . . .not the words "written in ink." Christ abides with us as the Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the truth God has laready "written in our hearts." you do not trust your heart . . . you trust a book.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-04-2015, 11:19 PM
 
1,788 posts, read 1,171,646 times
Reputation: 196
"The Body of Christ" (Those with a re-born Spirit, with the "Holy Spirit" of God) are scattered all over the Planet and in no particular "only" religion. It's not religions that save you, it's God's Son who sends His Father's Holy Spirit to come "CHANGE" YOU!

~repent World!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-05-2015, 07:07 PM
 
18,172 posts, read 16,387,358 times
Reputation: 9328
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerwade View Post
Which touchstone shall we use:

1) Annihiliatism.
2) Eternal torment.
3) Reconciliation.

Which is the most loving benchmark, or that which serves a better purpose?
We do not kill or torment our children, just because they missed the mark?

We lovingly correct them, even if it appears like fire and brimstone.
No, you test them against Scripture too. ALL scripture is in agreement, you a doctrine on one verse.

So that lets eternal torment out and reconciliation for everyone. Some yes and likely the vast majority of all that have ever lived, but everyone, nope. They are just gone and not around to bother anyone. Kinda like sending a kid to his room when he creates a problem. When he gets older if he stays really bad, he is booted out in love for the other family members who could be hurt and is evidence that one rejected your love and does not love you in return.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-05-2015, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Arizona
28,956 posts, read 16,347,403 times
Reputation: 2296
Quote:
Originally Posted by expatCA View Post
No, you test them against Scripture too. ALL scripture is in agreement, you a doctrine on one verse.

So that lets eternal torment out and reconciliation for everyone. Some yes and likely the vast majority of all that have ever lived, but everyone, nope. They are just gone and not around to bother anyone. Kinda like sending a kid to his room when he creates a problem. When he gets older if he stays really bad, he is booted out in love for the other family members who could be hurt and is evidence that one rejected your love and does not love you in return.
Tough love does not mean - boot them out in the cold of darkness.
Have you ever held someone in your arms without expectations?

I would leave the ninety-nine family member's for the benefit of the one.
It has to do with my love for them - not because - they reciprocated it.

Your touchstone is one of death, not that of life.
Thanks, but no thanks.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality > Christianity
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top