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The same way H2O can be a solid, a liquid, & a gas.
Yet we see evidence in the bible of all three being in the same place at the same time during Christ's baptism... Water cannot be solid, liquid, and gas at the same time.
Water in it's states is not a very good analogy unless you think God simply changes states...
Personally I don't believe in the trinity because the spirit of God is not separate from God... it's God's spirit...God IS spirit. Also, Christ WAS separate and human... therefore the trinity isn't taught in the bible and is illogical anyway IMO.
The concept of the Trinity is based on what the Bible teaches. The doctrine of the Trinity is not stated in one sentence per se, but rather like this. If A=B and B=C then A=C. So we have scriptures that say Jesus is God such as John 1:1 and 1:14 plus Phil 2:5-8. Other scriptures say the Holy Spirit is God such as Romans 8:9-11, 2Cor 3:3 and 17-18 plus Acts 5:3-4. This is the short list.
But if one decides otherwise or "interprets" certain scriptures to say otherwise then one can decide the Trinity doctrine is incorrect.
Please excuse me for being hard nosed on this issue, but IMO if the Bible says the ski is blue in plain Greek then I just say OK. The Bible says the ski is blue and I don't try to expain it away. I submit to God's word even tho I might not understand it 100%.
The concept of the Trinity is based on what the Bible teaches. The doctrine of the Trinity is not stated in one sentence per se, but rather like this. If A=B and B=C then A=C. So we have scriptures that say Jesus is God such as John 1:1 and 1:14 plus Phil 2:5-8. Other scriptures say the Holy Spirit is God such as Romans 8:9-11, 2Cor 3:3 and 17-18 plus Acts 5:3-4. This is the short list.
But if one decides otherwise or "interprets" certain scriptures to say otherwise then one can decide the Trinity doctrine is incorrect.
Please excuse me for being hard nosed on this issue, but IMO if the Bible says the ski is blue in plain Greek then I just say OK. The Bible says the ski is blue and I don't try to expain it away. I submit to God's word even tho I might not understand it 100%.
I'm really surprised to see so many non-trinitarian Christians on this forum. I'd kind of like to see a count of how many there actually are. For the sake of this discussion, I'd like to explain what I mean by "Trinity." I am referring to the 3-in-1 God described in the Nicene Creed. For instance, I believe in a Godhead comprised of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, but I don't believe they are merely different manifestations of the same Being. For that reason, I am voting 'No.'
I'm really surprised to see so many non-trinitarian Christians on this forum. I'd kind of like to see a count of how many there actually are. For the sake of this discussion, I'd like to explain what I mean by "Trinity." I am referring to the 3-in-1 God described in the Nicene Creed. For instance, I believe in a Godhead comprised of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, but I don't believe they are merely different manifestations of the same Being. For that reason, I am voting 'No.'
There is one God, yet manifested into three distinct beings--God the father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. The Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Spirit, and the Father is not the Holy Spirit, yet the Father is God, The Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God--all of them being one, with one purpose in mind (to offer Grace, Redemption, and comfort). God the Father saves us by grace, God the Son redeems us by his sacrificial death, and God the Holy Spirit, comforts us and helps convict us of all unrighteousness.
There is one God, yet manifested into three distinct beings--God the father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. The Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Spirit, and the Father is not the Holy Spirit, yet the Father is God, The Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God--all of them being one, with one purpose in mind (to offer Grace, Redemption, and comfort). God the Father saves us by grace, God the Son redeems us by his sacrificial death, and God the Holy Spirit, comforts us and helps convict us of all unrighteousness.
The same could be said about the Doe family... John, Jane, Johnnie...
John is a Doe, Jane is a Doe, Johnnie is a Doe but John is not Jane and Jane is not Johnnie and Johnnie is not John....
Yet they are all Doe's.... Problem? They have the same LAST NAME and the same FAMILY but they are not three in one.
It's real simple, separate but one. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. I think if you try and dwell on this too much it becomes confusing. Honestly, none of us can really understand and everything is assumption and surmising beyond believing that God is One, but has three parts.
There is one God, yet manifested into three distinct beings--God the father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. The Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Spirit, and the Father is not the Holy Spirit, yet the Father is God, The Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God--all of them being one, with one purpose in mind (to offer Grace, Redemption, and comfort). God the Father saves us by grace, God the Son redeems us by his sacrificial death, and God the Holy Spirit, comforts us and helps convict us of all unrighteousness.
And I like the diagram.
It's absolutely amazing, though not surprising, how even though the Bible states it outright that Jesus Christ is God, there are people who simply refuse to believe it. And the Holy Spirit is identified as a Person, not a force or attribute, and again, many people deny it.
It's absolutely amazing, though not surprising, how even though the Bible states it outright that Jesus Christ is God, there are people who simply refuse to believe it. And the Holy Spirit is identified as a Person, not a force or attribute, and again, many people deny it.
God is a Spirit , God is Holy , God is our Father, how come you see 3 of anything ? .
Jrsus clearly told us that God is one and not triune .
Hear o Israel the Lord our God is one God.
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