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It absolutely DOES! In fact, MUCH more so than any other SYSTEM: Calvinism, Arminian, and on and on and on and on..........
I did NOT just wake up one day and decide that everything was peachy keen. It is NOT. But, there is something MUCH bigger going on. The mystery includes us ALL. No doubt in my mind.
I agree herefornow,
The OT and NT were written to those people of their time -- it is also on another level written to us.
It seems that the physical punishments that were coming to the physical Jews is made into an eternal spiritual judgment.............
You constantly talk about "all the mistranslations" because it's the only way to justify UR. Why won't you trust God and believe He's capable of keeping His Word true and free from errors?
That is one persons point of view, any translation works, I personally do not use the mistranslation argument, because it is not needed in the first place.
You constantly talk about "all the mistranslations" because it's the only way to justify UR. Why won't you trust God and believe He's capable of keeping His Word true and free from errors?
It's like I posted on the "Revelation" thread - there are essentially three levels of understanding:
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the plain and literal surface meaning; there is the symbolic, figurative, or representative meaning; and there is the spiritual or mystical meaning; and these meanings are on an ascending scale in that order. The highest of all meanings is the spiritual meaning, for that is where we experience the reality of God who is Spirit. John referred to these three levels of truth in these significant words: "I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for His name’s sake...I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one...I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known Him that is from the beginning" (I Jn. 2:13). It's the same word, but on different levels to each realm.
The word of God will meet you at a different place depending upon where you are in the progression of your spiritual development from babes to young men to fathers.
It absolutely DOES! In fact, MUCH more so than any other SYSTEM: Calvinism, Arminian, and on and on and on and on..........
I did NOT just wake up one day and decide that everything was peachy keen. It is NOT. But, there is something MUCH bigger going on. The mystery includes us ALL. No doubt in my mind.
You can keep your world systems, I believe the Bible and NO it does NOT support that hell is not eternal separation from God.
No, most of them don't. It is a worry-free existance, but hiding their heads in the sand does't make Satan and hell go away.
There you go talking for others when you don't know what you're talking about. You are in great need, along with a few others, of a huge lesson and the only way you can learn the truth about UR is if you open your ears and eyes to hear and read.
I can only think of one UR on this board who doesn't believe in Satan and they have other alternative beliefs in addition to UR. Universalists believe in Satan and evil and know that he is at work in the world. You really need to stop making all these accusations when you don't know what you're talking about.
There you go talking for others when you don't know what you're talking about. You are in great need, along with a few others, of a huge lesson and the only way you can learn the truth about UR is if you open your ears and eyes to hear and read.
I can only think of one UR on this board who doesn't believe in Satan and they have other alternative beliefs in addition to UR. Universalists believe in Satan and evil and know that he is at work in the world. You really need to stop making all these accusations when you don't know what you're talking about.
OK, tell me who is Satan.
We have been through this so many times, that it's funny you'd make a comment like that.
You guys are not trying to understand UR.....just like I wasn't. I did not want to hear it, I didn't read any of the links they provided or the scripture they provided. When you think you are soooo right then all you do is argue your side of it, without really investigating the other side.
The serpent fed Eve that same garbage! "Only look, Eve. It's not so bad. God didn't really mean what He said. Touch it, it's all right. Now, bite it and open your eyes!"
God help us to put up a guard to the devil! Your Word is our sword! We will declare the whole counsel of God!
Eph. 6
[13] Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
[14] Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
Why would we need our loins girt about with truth? To trample the devil underfoot with the Word of God. He's nothing but a thief and a liar!
That is one persons point of view, any translation works, I personally do not use the mistranslation argument, because it is not needed in the first place.
Which argument do you use?
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