Is Cincinnati Racist?

[rodomonte]

Originally Posted by wilson1010

As for McNick, number two son graduated there in 2000 and the closest thing there was to a minority was son's friend who's father is a Peruvian transplant surgeon. But guaranteed racism has nothing to do with that. They would love to have as many minorities as they can get. They were a little self conscious about it. I think most AA families who could send their children to McNick prefer Walnut Hills.

One would think McNick could give some scholarships to blacks, especially black athletes, but they obviously don't. I once talked to the Registrar at St. X. He actively recruited blacks, but he said they wanted to go to a high school with girls, like McNick.

If there are now so many blacks in Mt. Washington, some clearly of means, why are none going to McNick instead of commuting to Walnut Hills? McNick doesn't take a back seat academically to any school.

In the entire history of McNick there have been virtually no blacks, probably less than 10. Any you claim that is not because of racism. There are the same number of blacks at McNick today, zero, as there were when I graduated from there in the sixties. That's real progress.

[Sarah Perry]

Originally Posted by rodomonte

One would think McNick could give some scholarships to blacks, especially black athletes, but they obviously don't. I once talked to the Registrar at St. X. He actively recruited blacks, but he said they wanted to go to a high school with girls, like McNick.

If there are now so many blacks in Mt. Washington, some clearly of means, why are none going to McNick instead of commuting to Walnut Hills? McNick doesn't take a back seat academically to any school.

In the entire history of McNick there have been virtually no blacks, probably less than 10. Any you claim that is not because of racism. There are the same number of blacks at McNick today, zero, as there were when I graduated from there in the sixties. That's real progress.

Some people don't want to attend parochial school. Just sayin.

[bryce05]

^I was referring more to some of the merchandise for sale at Trader's World. Obama-hating t-shirts everywhere you looked; slogans that you wouldn't see used to refer to a white President, even if you disagreed with them.

[Wilson513]

Originally Posted by bryce05

^I was referring more to some of the merchandise for sale at Trader's World. Obama-hating t-shirts everywhere you looked; slogans that you wouldn't see used to refer to a white President, even if you disagreed with them.

Where were you when Bush was President. They made a movie about his assassination. Hung him in effigy. Put bullseyes on his picture. Called him every disgraceful epithet one could imagine. BO hasn't seen a 100th of what was thrown at Bush. And, don't pigeon-hole me. I was not and am not a fan of Bush. You're just out in left field.

[jlawrence01]

Originally Posted by bryce05

^I was referring more to some of the merchandise for sale at Trader's World. Obama-hating t-shirts everywhere you looked; slogans that you wouldn't see used to refer to a white President, even if you disagreed with them.

Obviously, you don't remember the vitriol that was thrown at Nixon, Clinton, Reagan and GWB ....

[rodomonte]

Originally Posted by Sarah Perry

Some people don't want to attend parochial school. Just sayin.

About 13% of the students in Catholic schools nationwide are non-Catholic.

Some of these non-Catholic students are there to get away from the blacks at their customary public schools, something many Catholic schools recognize and try to discourage.

[captaincatfish]

Originally Posted by wilson1010

The only place to find overt racism in Cincinnati in 2011 is among black persons. 15 minutes of listening to 1230 WBZ at noon when Lincoln Ware hosts a symposium on racial hatred will expose one to more racial hate speech than 10 years in a bowling alley or a hillwilliam bar.

Many say that persons of color are entitled to their hate filled invective. I disagree, but am not offended by it because I do not harbor the first scintilla of "white guilt." It is misguided and I pray for those who harbor grudges because of what happened to their great grandparents. Almost all persons have grievances in their ancestors' past and we would be in quite a fix if every Irishman harbored hatred for the Scots or the English.

The remnants of racial segregation referred to here, if true (which I doubt), wouldn't make a good bar fight they were between a Pole and a Czech or a Greek and a Turk. Move on, this grievance mentality is not a good thing.

You know I love ya, but I will also butt heads with you when I think you may be wrong-headed about something---like here

Being a 'person of color', I can tell you that I don't A) spout 'hate-filled invective', B) think that whites need to feel guilty about anything, C) have a 'grievance mentality', or D) think that Lincoln Ware and his show are some mystical, bottomless fountain of knowledge about the black community, here in Cincinnati or anywhere else

We're (blacks) not all a bunch of inveterate 'whitey-haters', nor are we a roving band of foul-mouthed, gun-toting, pea-brained thugs either...on the other side, I don't sit around calling whites 'rednecks' or 'racists' or 'closet KKK members'...I don't waste time moaning about stuff that happened years before I was even a gleam in my parents' eyes, because said parents instilled in me and my siblings from birth that we are all responsible for our OWN actions, both positive and negative, and it's frankly a waste of time to sit around b****ing about 'The Man'---in short, there ain't a thing 'The Man' can do to me, that I can't get off my black a** and UNDO in short order...

In closing, I respect you for the fact that, even when you may be intrinsically wrong about something, you share a common trait with me---you speak your mind, and generally stand behind what you say, right or wrong...

Also, please don't fall into the camp of those who use that old, tired brand of 'racial algebra'---as in 'one is, therefore they ALL are!'...because I can tell you from personal experience and life lessons, we most emphatically are NOT all cut from the same cloth, or share some 'community mindset'

[Wilson513]

Originally Posted by captaincatfish

You know I love ya, but I will also butt heads with you when I think you may be wrong-headed about something---like here

Being a 'person of color', I can tell you that I don't A) spout 'hate-filled invective', B) think that whites need to feel guilty about anything, C) have a 'grievance mentality', or D) think that Lincoln Ware and his show are some mystical, bottomless fountain of knowledge about the black community, here in Cincinnati or anywhere else

Never in a million years would I have assumed that you did.

Originally Posted by captaincatfish

We're (blacks) not all a bunch of inveterate 'whitey-haters', nor are we a roving band of foul-mouthed, gun-toting, pea-brained thugs either...on the other side, I don't sit around calling whites 'rednecks' or 'racists' or 'closet KKK members'...I don't waste time moaning about stuff that happened years before I was even a gleam in my parents' eyes, because said parents instilled in me and my siblings from birth that we are all responsible for our OWN actions, both positive and negative, and it's frankly a waste of time to sit around b****ing about 'The Man'---in short, there ain't a thing 'The Man' can do to me, that I can't get off my black a** and UNDO in short order...

And this is the word that will solve most problems facing the black community.

Originally Posted by captaincatfish

In closing, I respect you for the fact that, even when you may be intrinsically wrong about something, you share a common trait with me---you speak your mind, and generally stand behind what you say, right or wrong...

Thanks, I try.

Originally Posted by captaincatfish

Also, please don't fall into the camp of those who use that old, tired brand of 'racial algebra'---as in 'one is, therefore they ALL are!'...because I can tell you from personal experience and life lessons, we most emphatically are NOT all cut from the same cloth, or share some 'community mindset'

Like most stereotypes, they only apply to a very small but highly visible part of the group to which the stereotype is sought to be applied. As you know, I have a long history of rich and rewarding experiences with the black community. I was only referring to that very, very small but visible percentage.