Having the Ohio and Kentucky border near (Cincinnati, Hamilton: crime rate, how much)

[Ohiogirl81]

Originally Posted by Wilson513

Corporex started in KY.

Thanks, I wasn't sure.

[CarpathianPeasant]

Kentucky has a different structure.

[Ohiogirl81]

Originally Posted by CarpathianPeasant

Kentucky has a different structure.

Well ... yeah ... it's a different state.

[goyguy]

How soon everyone here thus far has forgotten that the region surrounding Cincinnati is popularly known as the Tri-State Area. There's a possibility - however slight - that having nearby Indiana in the picture tempers any OH-KY rivalry which may have been in effect otherwise. In Greater Cincinnati there's an appreciable number of people who have attended IU or swear loyalty to Hoosier sports. (Not to mention DePauw and Ball State for their "Greek" life and strong business-studies orientation, Earlham for its high-caliber pre-professional emphasis and hippie-dippy intellectual feel, various schools for those of the fundamentalist persuasion, etc.) Legalized gambling in the region got its start in Lawrenceburg, Rising Sun, and Vevay. A lot of the households who joined the wave of White flight from Cincy's west side have resettled across the Indiana state line. Business-wise, other than the casinos I have to plead ignorance except to speculate that any number of companies may have jumped from OH to IN or the other way around.
Regardless, perhaps being in a three-state region does temper any perceived "hostilities."

[ram2]

Originally Posted by joe from dayton

Ohio and Kentucky are also separated by a physical boundary--the Ohio river--instead of an imaginary line, so the separation is more distinct. NKY is composed of small, old river towns. The Newport area has been redeveloped and has a nice riverscape and aquarium, but I think the region compliments Cinci rather than detracts from it. When people fly out of "Cincinnati", they are actually flying out of Kentucky, since that is where the airport is located. I am not aware of an businesses playing musical states.

The Missouri and Kansas rivers separate the 2 Kansas Cities.

[misterrogers]

I was going to say that too - there is a river (albeit a smaller one) dividing Kansas from Missouri. But the Missouri River isn't a cultural and perception border like the Ohio River is.

When my parents moved here from the Northeast, they specifically told the realtor they didn't want to live in Kentucky. For no real reason other than Kentucky's hillbilly reputation.

Having grown up here myself, I don't see much of a difference between southern Ohio and northern Kentucky. After going to school in Cleveland, I think that Cincinnati is closer to Kentucky/Indiana culturally than we are to the Northeastern part of the state.

[kjbrill]

misterrogers ...

Definitely have the same feeling. Cincinnati, being so much larger, clearly dominates the scene with NKY. I see very little difference between the two. And southern Indiana, with no significant city, just seems to blend in there. The term Tri-State fits very well, but Cincinnati dominates.

I am a born and bred Cincinnatian. I view Cleveland as being somewhere else in the north of the state along that large lake called Erie. There is nowhere I equate Cincinnati and Cleveland as being alike. Cleveland could be across the lake in Canada and I wouldn't care.

I give credit to the Browns who screwed Paul Brown out of his ownership and resulted in Cincinnati being the home of the Bengals. Thank you Cleveland very much.

Then we have Columbus with no major sports team of any kind. Many keep promoting Columbus. Good luck but they will continue to be behind Cleveland and Cincinnati. Move the Ohio State University out of Columbus and they would die on the vine, their only major claim to fame.

[CarpathianPeasant]

Originally Posted by flashes1

Complete opposite experience for me in every aspect....and I normally agree with you 100%.

KY folks like the Reds and Bengals because KY doesn't have elite level professional sports.

Shopping, special events and culture---I don't really partake in these things to any meaningful degree, so you could be right in this area, although I am extremely doubtful...culture? Maybe, but only because they don't have something like Music Hall or Aronoff Center. Shopping? There may not be malls in KY, so maybe that's true? I'm not sure...I don't see plays and I don't shop at brick-and-mortar stores.

High school sports are important in KY than UK? UK is a religion in KY....I've not seen that level of devotion to their high schools, but you might have a different experience.

Here's my experience:

1. Reds/Bengals games: you see a lot of Big Blue shirts despite neither team having blue. My view is they are trying to make a statement.

2. I have a customer of one of KY's largest privately owned companies---native Ohioan---met his KY born wife---said she would marry him, but only if he agree they would live in KY.

3. I can see the fear in KY people's eyes when I bring up OTR.

4. KY folks talk a lot about the dysfunction of Cincinnati City Council and how horrible the Democrats have messed up the city's finances. My view is they take great pleasure in seeing how moronic the Democrats are. I moved to Cinti about 2 years after Levee was built---it was extraordinarily embarassing as a native born Ohioan when I compared KY riverfront to Ohio riverfront. Fortunately that's changed---but the shame lingers.

5. The KY folks I work with on the Ohio side make it very clear that they only work in Ohio. Everything else they do is done in KY. They take the TANK over in the morning and take it back as soon as the work day is over. Nothing else done in OH.

6. Several KY women I know (who live in Ohio) made sure their children were born in St. E's which is not a quality hospital---trust me on that one.

And, now for the view of a displaced Ohioan in Kentucky (and from north of Wilmington):

1. Making a statement, yes, but probably not anything but, "I'm from Kentucky."

2. She didn't want social hassle and did want (more peaceful) familiar territory.

3. I could see fear in Ohio people's eyes, even some who live there, and I've been there.

4. You may have something there, but I'm not sure as I don't run in such circles.

5. Possibly often true, but not always. My little "hillbilly" aunt once nearly left the family because uncle wanted to locate his one-man business in a small town and she said: if she wanted to live in a small town, she would have stayed in Kentucky.

6. Having been there, I somewhat trust you on that one, but there can be a special "caring" attitude there. And, you have to remember that the hospital system is the biggest business in Northern Kentucky, i.e., it's considered very important. On the Ohio side it's sort of necessary addenda to life.

Postscript: Many Kentuckians resent snooty Ohio attitudes. Kentucky has good things, too, they're just a different type of things than what's in Ohio. Treat the people and what they have with respect, maybe even take an inferior position (I think one of my best comments is, would you please repeat that -- I don't understand Kentuckian, and I don't understand the British, either) and you'll probably be all right (at least in Northern Kentucky).

[WILWRadio]

Unfortunately I've come to the realization that living in any area near a "border" from the Civil War seems to be a problem at least for me. Still too many people on both sides that have major issues with people living on the other side of the state line even if they are not natives. Saw a lot of this in Kansas City when I lived there, have also seen it when visiting Louisville and now I am starting to see this on both the KY and OH side of Cincinnati.

Wondering if I should have bought a home much further to the North or South where these issues don't exist? A lot less turmoil will enter my life I am sure and for that of others.

[WILWRadio]

Originally Posted by CarpathianPeasant

And, now for the view of a displaced Ohioan in Kentucky (and from north of Wilmington):

1. Making a statement, yes, but probably not anything but, "I'm from Kentucky."

2. She didn't want social hassle and did want (more peaceful) familiar territory.

3. I could see fear in Ohio people's eyes, even some who live there, and I've been there.

4. You may have something there, but I'm not sure as I don't run in such circles.

5. Possibly often true, but not always. My little "hillbilly" aunt once nearly left the family because uncle wanted to locate his one-man business in a small town and she said: if she wanted to live in a small town, she would have stayed in Kentucky.

6. Having been there, I somewhat trust you on that one, but there can be a special "caring" attitude there. And, you have to remember that the hospital system is the biggest business in Northern Kentucky, i.e., it's considered very important. On the Ohio side it's sort of necessary addenda to life.

Postscript: Many Kentuckians resent snooty Ohio attitudes. Kentucky has good things, too, they're just a different type of things than what's in Ohio. Treat the people and what they have with respect, maybe even take an inferior position (I think one of my best comments is, would you please repeat that -- I don't understand Kentuckian, and I don't understand the British, either) and you'll probably be all right (at least in Northern Kentucky).

I like NKY. I see far more good aspects there than bad. Nice architecture, friendly people in several areas, some good restaurants, and crime is generally lower than similar areas on the OH side.