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it is technically southwest by map, but i guarantee you almost everyone that lives in southern california( los angeles, orange county, san diego county) would never want to live in the real southwest (new mexico, arizona, basically desert areas). coastal cali is separate from the rest of the southwest just like people in seattle and portland would never want to live in east washington and east oregon. coastal areas are imo separate from everything else.
i live in san diego and i would rather live up the coast in seattle than inland like phoenix or new mexico or vegas.
Because California is in the Southwestern part of the United States. What kind of dumb question is this?
IF you mean desert Southwest, almost no one in real life does. California is a region onto itself that maybe only Nevada can be apart of simply because most Nevada residents live within an hour of the CA border.
I would even consider Oregon and Nevada part of the Southwest, as well as Hawaii.
The area of Nevada South of Tonopah could easily be considered part of the Southwest, as well as Southern Utah and Southwestern Colorado.
Northern Nevada definitely isn't the Southwest, and Oregon? How is that even a consideration? Oregon is quintessential NORTHwest. Hawaii isn't even part of any region.
I wonder how this thread would have gone if it had been posted in the California forum?
The area of Nevada South of Tonopah could easily be considered part of the Southwest, as well as Southern Utah and Southwestern Colorado.
Northern Nevada definitely isn't the Southwest, and Oregon? How is that even a consideration? Oregon is quintessential NORTHwest. Hawaii isn't even part of any region.
I wonder how this thread would have gone if it had been posted in the California forum?
It would have ended on the first page with everyone in agreement
why is only washington and oregon considered northwest, no one ever talks about idaho, montana and wyoming as part of the northwest even though they are in the 25% of the usa that is northwest
its not as simple as breaking down the usa into 4 equal regions of NE, NW, SE, and SW.
pretty simple, most of california is not southwest, much of the "mountain states" are not northwest even if by map.
why is only washington and oregon considered northwest, no one ever talks about idaho, montana and wyoming as part of the northwest even though they are in the 25% of the usa that is northwest
its not as simple as breaking down the usa into 4 equal regions of NE, NW, SE, and SW.
pretty simple, most of california is not southwest, much of the "mountain states" are not northwest even if by map.
People sometimes include Oregon, Washington, Idaho and western Montana as the greater "Northwest". Sometimes people differentiate this from the Pacific Northwest which can include everything from all of Oregon and Washington but sometimes is just considered to be Oregon and Washington west of the Cascades(and sometimes get's expanded to include everything along the coast from Southeast Alaska to Northern California).
I've seen descriptions that refer to the entire Columbia River Basin as being part of the "Northwest". People break up the US into a lot of regional or cultural divisions, but sometimes those get overstated. Much of Oregon and Washington has more in common with the Rocky Mountain states than the common stereotypes of the Pacific Northwest, but part of the misconception is assuming that Pacific Northwest is only those stereotypes to begin with.
Though I'd say the "Southwest" refers to a specific region with some shared traits--both in terms of environment and culture---but even then you have a mix from the Mojave Desert to Las Vegas to Flagstaff to Phoenix to the mountains of New Mexico to maybe El Paso and West Texas. Drier desert country punctuated by red rocks or higher mountain climates with a cultural history that mixes Native American influences with earlier Hispanic settlers and the culture of the Old West(with some Mormon influences on the edges as well as you get into Utah).
California has some of this historically, it differs more so though a lot of it was built up earlier with the population influx of the Gold Rush and then migration later in the late 1800s/early 1900s(and a different mix in the coastal urban centers)--but I think in part it's also just because much of the environment of California is milder and more Mediterranean or coastal than the extremes of the Desert Southwest--though at the same time inland California can be just as hot as the Southwest.
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