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Old 08-30-2022, 10:03 AM
 
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I cant wait to read the comments on this one. The ranking is done by Insurify and posted by CNBC. The criteria is employment opportunity and affordability as well as transit costs and livability.
  1. Saint Louis
  2. Minneapolis
  3. Rapid City SD
  4. Pittsburgh
  5. Lincoln NE
  6. Portland
  7. Fargo
  8. Fort Wayne IN
  9. Denver
  10. Tampa
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Old 08-30-2022, 10:08 AM
 
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St. Louis?
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Old 08-30-2022, 10:12 AM
 
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St. Louis?
Lol. Yes St. Louis. 7th lowest unemployment by the latest bls stats for large msa's. Low cost of living with 40+ miles of light rail made it the top choice in this ranking.

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Old 08-30-2022, 10:44 AM
 
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Every list is different. This one focuses on unemployment, affordability and "number of arts and entertainment venues". That probably counts bars. Probably zero weight for outdoor recreation. Zero weight for crime or climate from what I read.

I'd think many recent college graduates would have different top cities. But there is variety within college graduates. Those from top schools and with top grades are probably somewhat different than those with average and lesser credentials.

Lists raise awareness of options. Probably good that all lists are not exactly the same. Boring to read and may not get much attention if they are exactly the same.

Publications that buy heavy into coastal elite cities will have a list slant. There are other publications that have put the spotlight on south and now more than previously on midwest.

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Old 08-30-2022, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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I cant wait to read the comments on this one. The ranking is done by Insurify and posted by CNBC. The criteria is employment opportunity and affordability as well as transit costs and livability.
  1. Saint Louis
  2. Minneapolis
  3. Rapid City SD
  4. Pittsburgh
  5. Lincoln NE
  6. Portland
  7. Fargo
  8. Fort Wayne IN
  9. Denver
  10. Tampa
I can see why a lot of these make sense for a college graduate. A 22 to roughly 24ish year old or so, could stretch their money decently far in St Louis. Plus there is a lot to do there.

Minneapolis, Pittsburgh, Denver and Tampa would all be super attractive cities as well, and lots of things to do for that age group.

But the smaller cities on the list would be a challenge long term, I would think, for someone to stay there in that age group. Rapid City, Lincoln, Portland, Fargo and Ft Wayne are quiet cities with minimal options overall, for someone single and in their 20s.
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Old 08-30-2022, 10:58 AM
 
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Umm...Fort Wayne IN? Sure the economy is not that bad for being in the rust belt, and it's definitely cheap to live there, but what new grad wants to go there unless they are from Indiana (or maybe Ohio or southern Michigan)

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I can see why a lot of these make sense for a college graduate. A 22 to roughly 24ish year old or so, could stretch their money decently far in St Louis. Plus there is a lot to do there.

Minneapolis, Pittsburgh, Denver and Tampa would all be super attractive cities as well, and lots of things to do for that age group.

But the smaller cities on the list would be a challenge long term, I would think, for someone to stay there in that age group. Rapid City, Lincoln, Portland, Fargo and Ft Wayne are quiet cities with minimal options overall, for someone single and in their 20s.
Portland Oregon, not Portland ME...definitely not that small.

St Louis area and Pittsburgh are actually both good areas - relative low cost of living but has everything you need for a metro area.
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Old 08-30-2022, 11:10 AM
 
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St. Louis, might be alright on climate for many but not everyone. Outdoor recreation probably more alright than special.

In city crime rates, St. Louis has almost 4 times the national average on violent crime and 2.5 times the property crime rate. One can say "most violent crime is between people that know each other" and "some neighborhoods and suburbs are safer than others" but crime is still a pretty big argument against St. Louis to me.
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Old 08-30-2022, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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Not surprised to see Pittsburgh on this list. It is super cheap to live here. It's surprising our population is continuing to decline. I guess people still want to flock to larger cities and then whine how expensive they are and how they can't afford to have a nice quality-of-life in them. I am going to guess St. Louis is comparable to Pittsburgh in terms of affordability.
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Old 08-30-2022, 11:33 AM
 
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St. Louis, might be alright on climate for many but not everyone. Outdoor recreation probably more alright than special.

In city crime rates, St. Louis has almost 4 times the national average on violent crime and 2.5 times the property crime rate. One can say "most violent crime is between people that know each other" and "some neighborhoods and suburbs are safer than others" but crime is still a pretty big argument against St. Louis to me.
Are you talking about St Louis city or the whole metro area?

I certainly don't feel dangerous when I'm around Creve Coeur or one of those nearby suburbs. Actually, the most dangerous thing I faced in that area is probably those crazy drivers...
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Old 08-30-2022, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Florida
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These cities almost look random. I mean, Rapid City vs Tampa? They’re just so different.
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