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they both have a big city feel, but picture Seattle like New York, conjested and urban, while Houston is more like L.A., or Atlanta, much more spread out, but with GIANT 16-18 lane freeways, with huge interchanges that lead from the many suburbs to the intercity. If i had to choose it would be Houston in a hearbeat. Seattle has horrible weather, and Houston has amazing weather. The Texas pride, and local atmosphire of Texas is amazing.
Houston is one of the least urban big cities in America. Most of America's suburbs are more urban.
Its a nice place, but urban, it is not. In fairness, it has pockets of urbanity, but so does everywhere else.
Its dishonest to describe Houston as one of America's "Biggest" cities, with 40% of its metro population within its city limits taking up over 600 sq. miles, its not a very metropolitan city.
why would it be dishonest to describe Houston as one of america's biggest cities when Houston has the 4th largest GDP, Why would it be dishonest when Houston has the 3rd tallest skyline in the US. why would be dishonest when Houston has 2 of the top 50 busiest airports in the US. why would it be dishonest when Houston has the busiest port in the country by tonnage?
What does its size have to do with its economic output? what does its size have to do with how tall its buildings are? what does its size have to do with the number of containers entering its port? what does its size have to do with the number of people going through its airports?
Houston is the 4th largest city n the US because it is strong in every field.
Seattle has modest factors at best in everything. You mean to tell me Seattle is a bigger city because the buildings are closer together? how laughable.
You guys are making me slam one of my favorite cities in the country
there you go again. I asked you where did anyone say it was more urban. no one did. so you are laughing at something no one said.
Go back and actually read what I said. Stop embarrassing yourself. I didn't claim anyone said that Houston was more urban. Here is what i said.
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Originally Posted by Bill Loney
What's funnier is folks from Houston suggesting its downtown has an urban feel. As aforementioned, the lights go out at 6pm.
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show me one. YOu said everybody, I dare you to show me one person from Houston who said that
Do you normally just make **** up as you go along?
First of all, what the hell do you consider urban.
This is the definition:
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/ˈɜrbən/ Show Spelled[ur-buhn] Show IPA
–adjective 1. of, pertaining to, or designating a city or town.
2. living in a city.
3. characteristic of or accustomed to cities; citified: He is an urban type.
Now, in the real sense that should make all cities urban, but you CD density walkable people, whatever, stretch the definition where urban = Boston, which means calling Houston urban would be a false statement, I agree in that sense. But Downtown Houston is urban, it is less so than in many other places, it is less vibrant than in many other places, but its still urban. I mean name one concrete GENERAL thing that you can do in downtown Seattle that you CAN'T do in downtown Houston. There won't be a long list. There will be more options in DT Seattle.
Heres an example.
I can buy an outfit and shoes. You can do that in both downtowns. However, there isn't as many stores and retailers in DT Houston.
Heres a non-example.
I can't buy an Nordstrom outfit in downtown Houston. Like I said, stick to general points, no specifics, or things like I can't be surrounded by people as I stroll from street to street. We all know DT Houston isn't virbrant.
Now considering you can do the same general things, for the most part, I'd consider DT Houston urban. Stop confusing vibrancy with urbanity. A downtown doesn't have to be vibrant to be urban. A downtown can have parking lots and be urban.
from street to street. We all know DT Houston isn't virbrant.
Now considering you can do the same general things, for the most part, I'd consider DT Houston urban. Stop confusing vibrancy with urbanity. A downtown doesn't have to be vibrant to be urban. A downtown can have parking lots and be urban.
I think you make a pretty good point, a place can be urban without vibrancy, true in every city in America.
But I also think in the traditional sense a city should have that (vibrancy), especially at the core, that next level down in vibrancy feels very suburban to me and is so indistinguishable from everyplace else, which in many ways much of Houston (even in the city) feels like. So this leads to many people calling/associating Houston with being suburban, because it looks and feels like what many people associate as suburban, not in total but most of what is considered the city based on the borders. And I guess why I know personally I feel like I have trouble finding the urban part of houston, even areas with tall buildings that exist in many areas of the city, I still feel like I am in the burbs or a perimeter city, thus it feels that next level down in urbanity or suburban. And this is not everywhere, but it feels disjointed and lacks the cohesiveness that add to vibrancy. And again this is not to say there are no urban areas in Houston, they just seem so pocketed and that again to me feels suburban, that is similar to the suburban makeup that I am used to, pockets of urbanity sorrounded by suburbia just on a larger scale with taller buildings, this is the general vibe I get, and why I think urban does not jump to mind with a city of this type of makeup.
And again this is not to say there are no urban areas, because there are, and honestly the downtown would never be mistaken for not being urban, lacking continuous vibrancy, maybe but even that is getting better
maybe it is my flaw where I equate vibrancy with urbanity, or I was just conditioned as a child based on the 3 cities I knew best NYC, Philly and DC, dunno
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