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Yeah, SD will win.But San Antonio and Dallas will surpass it before
Yeah, San Antonio could get there before San Diego does, but you know, Dallas is a lesser ranking than that of San Diego right now. Check the US Census 2009's estimates.
6. Philadelphia 1,547,297
7. San Antonio 1,373,668
8. San Diego 1,306,301
9. Dallas 1,299,543
Well, it could happen, but according to the list I posted earlier, San Diego was ahead of Dallas by a long shot.
San Antonio 1.5 million
San Diego 1.4 million
Dallas 1.32 million
Even though that list came from 2004 (6 years ago), I believe San Diego is ahead of Dallas by almost 60,000-80,000 .
San Antonio 1.56 million
San Diego 1.43 million
Dallas 1.37 million
And by the time 2030 comes, All 3 cities can pass Philly, but still as the order the cities come in right now (San Antonio, San Diego, Dallas, Philadelphia)
San Antonio 1.8 million
San Diego 1.75 million
Dallas 1.73 million
Philadelphia 1.7 million
San Diego, like I did post on the first as starter of the thread, said San Diego was over Dallas. And everyone still agrees , that is, if you still believe in the 2008 census estimates (non-revision to 1,279,329 before accepted challenge to rocket population to 1,305,754). So that settles it. San Diego is and was over Dallas non-stop (w/o Dallas catching up) since 1980.
I'll wait for official census data......I assume you mean city proper and NOT MSA or CMSA's?????
City proper. San Diego is at 3 million in metro while Philadelphia is 6 million. In city proper San Diego is only 200,000 people apart (with San Diego at 1.35 million and Philly at 1.55m)
A couple factors may determine population growth in both San Diego and Philadelphia. If the military ever decide to cut back on more bases as they did 10-15 yrs ago, San Diego could lose some population. I may be wrong but I think the military is San Diego county's largest employer. The other factor is the slow-growth mentality of San Diego and California, in general. Attempts to discourage further development due to infra-structure stessors [ie. water, transportation] may keep San Diego from gaining too much more people. But the trend lines certainly favor continued growth in California in spite of the aforementioned concerns.
Philadelphia is a different story and like other large East Coast cities is realizing only modest growth; if those trends continue than Philly, like Chicago may see cities like Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and San Diego surpass them in population within the next decade or two.
A couple factors may determine population growth in both San Diego and Philadelphia. If the military ever decide to cut back on more bases as they did 10-15 yrs ago, San Diego could lose some population. I may be wrong but I think the military is San Diego county's largest employer. The other factor is the slow-growth mentality of San Diego and California, in general. Attempts to discourage further development due to infra-structure stessors [ie. water, transportation] may keep San Diego from gaining too much more people. But the trend lines certainly favor continued growth in California in spite of the aforementioned concerns.
Philadelphia is a different story and like other large East Coast cities is realizing only modest growth; if those trends continue than Philly, like Chicago may see cities like Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and San Diego surpass them in population within the next decade or two.
Why did you have to sadden us!!! I liked more population than lesser!!!! Well, I have hopes that no more bases are built here. Besides the population city proper is slowing down.
San Diego population proper 1970-2030
1970: 697,000
1980: 876,000
1990: 1,111,000
2000: 1,223,000
2004: 1,400,000
2010: 1,430,000
2020: 1,530,000
2030: 1,750,000
Yes but you do realize they are surpassing on a municpal border that is 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 times the land area covered. For example just adding Deleware County directly abuting Philadelphia's (134 sq miles) you get a population at about 2.3 to 2.4 million in less space than the city of Dallas or San Diego or San Antonio or Half the area of Houston. So really what do any of these mean
Yes but you do realize they are surpassing on a municpal border that is 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 times the land area covered. For example just adding Deleware County directly abuting Philadelphia's (134 sq miles) you get a population at about 2.3 to 2.4 million in less space than the city of Dallas or San Diego or San Antonio or Half the area of Houston. So really what do any of these mean
Wait, know I don't know what you mean!!!! It's turning into Confuseopolis (a city where everybody is confused)!!!!
A couple factors may determine population growth in both San Diego and Philadelphia. If the military ever decide to cut back on more bases as they did 10-15 yrs ago, San Diego could lose some population. I may be wrong but I think the military is San Diego county's largest employer. The other factor is the slow-growth mentality of San Diego and California, in general. Attempts to discourage further development due to infra-structure stessors [ie. water, transportation] may keep San Diego from gaining too much more people. But the trend lines certainly favor continued growth in California in spite of the aforementioned concerns.
Philadelphia is a different story and like other large East Coast cities is realizing only modest growth; if those trends continue than Philly, like Chicago may see cities like Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and San Diego surpass them in population within the next decade or two.
I've quoted this already, but I liked your seond paragraph. Houston can pass Chicago is the next decade, and cities like, Dallas, San Antonio, and San Diego can tackle Philly in 18-20 years *. This is a list of 15 largest cities that is likely going to pass (in blue-green) and the city that is falling (in red). If multi-colored, then it is gaining to losing, vise versa, or steady rising, or steady losing. THIS IS IN RANKING NOT POPULATION CHANGE.
1. New York City 8,550,000
2. Los Angeles 4,150,000
3. Chicago 2,950,000
4. Houston 2,300,000
5. Phoenix 1,650,000
6. Philadelphia 1,550,000
7. San Antonio 1,450,000
8. San Diego 1,400,000
9. Dallas 1,350,000
10. San Jose 1,050,000
11. Detroit 900,000
12. San Francisco 850,000
13. Jacksonville 830,000
14. Indianapolis 810,000
15. Austin 800,000
Why did you have to sadden us!!! I liked more population than lesser!!!! Well, I have hopes that no more bases are built here. Besides the population city proper is slowing down.
San Diego population proper 1970-2030
1970: 697,000
1980: 876,000
1990: 1,111,000
2000: 1,223,000
2004: 1,400,000
2010: 1,430,000
2020: 1,530,000
2030: 1,750,000
Big doesn't necessarily mean better. You live in San Diego and know that it is one continuous city\ suburban spread almost all the way to Oceanside; that's at least 30 miles. Then past Camp Pendleton it starts up again in San Clemente and continues right thru Los Angeles all the way to Santa Clarita to the north and Thousand Oaks to the northwest. Going inland from Orange & LA county it is total suburban\ urban spread all the way to San Bernardino & Riverside [over 60 miles]. That is too many people in my opinion. California can not handle more people. Let's slow things down a bit!
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Your list on San Diego and Dallas
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