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Yea the whole ‘Las Vegas isn’t urban’ thing seems silly to me. It’s not the only Big city like that l...but maybe because it doesn’t even try to pretend with mixed use areas sprinkled here and there -it catches flack.
Chicago has a shockingly small amount of Michelin-starred restaurants given its historical prominence in fine dining.
D.C. is rivaling Chicago in high-end cuisine according to Michelin. I expect Curtis Duffy to gain 3 stars at EVER that just opened in Fulton Market and be named in the world's top 50. Jose Andreas is opening a flagship restaurant in the new Bank of America Tower which might earn stars. Chicago has lost a lot of fine dining establishments over the years. All around you are correct, Chicago is a culinary powerhouse way out of Vegas' league.
Just to note just in 2017/18. Chicago was voted top city for eateries/restaurants. Though I do think I posted these 2 top restaurant city awards links.... Here it is again.
Home to the iconic Restaurant Row and more than 5,000 restaurants (22 of which are Michelin-starred), Chicago is one of the hottest food cities on the planet right now. Others have been quick to take notice — Conde Nast Traveler dubbed it America’s Best Restaurant City, and just a few months later, Bon Appetit called it the 2017 Restaurant City of the Year.
Sadly, we do not know how well Chicago or our other great cities will recover from this God-awful year .... still in eateries in general or Michelin rated restaurants .... unless the links # is in era or just not very top ones you claim? Seems the city is/was no slouch at all....
Even NYC some claim taking a hit. Still what Chicago earned .... is not like 10 years ago.
Casinis of Vegas clearly can gain elite eateries. Still huge smorgasbord buffets.... are not what wins a city awards.
So much today we post about is pre-pandemic times ....
Just to note just in 2017/18. Chicago was voted top city for eateries/restaurants. Though I do think I posted these 2 top restaurant city awards links.... Here it is again.
Home to the iconic Restaurant Row and more than 5,000 restaurants (22 of which are Michelin-starred), Chicago is one of the hottest food cities on the planet right now. Others have been quick to take notice — Conde Nast Traveler dubbed it America’s Best Restaurant City, and just a few months later, Bon Appetit called it the 2017 Restaurant City of the Year.
Sadly, we do not know how well Chicago or our other great cities will recover from this God-awful year .... still in eateries in general or Michelin rated restaurants .... unless the links # is in era or just not very top ones you claim? Seems the city is/was no slouch at all....
Even NYC some claim taking a hit. Still what Chicago earned .... is not like 10 years ago.
Casinis of Vegas clearly can gain elite eateries. Still huge smorgasbord buffets.... are not what wins a city awards.
So much today we post about is pre-pandemic times ....
I was just speaking to the high-end dining scene in Chicago with Michelin Guide representation. I would expect Chicago to be right with or slightly behind NY and S.F. in the fine-dining arena given Chicago's prominence as a foodie destination. I would think Chicago could easily produce 4 or 5 three-starred restaurants and up to 50 with stars. 22 with stars is low for Chicago's exellence and influence as a culinary city.
Chicago lost the following renowned Michelin-Starred restaurants:
Grace ***
L20 ***
Charlie Trotter **
Tru **
Sixteen **
Grahm Elliot **
42 Grams **
Alinea has been the lone "world's best restaurant" type of establishments in Chicago for a long time now. Curtis Duffy will probably end up with 3 stars now that he has opened Ever in Fulton Market and Jose Andreas who has stars in D.C. is opening a fine dining restaurant in the Loop.
I was just speaking to the high-end dining scene in Chicago with Michelin Guide representation. I would expect Chicago to be right with or slightly behind NY and S.F. in the fine-dining arena given Chicago's prominence as a foodie destination. I would think Chicago could easily produce 4 or 5 three-starred restaurants and up to 50 with stars. 22 with stars is low for Chicago's exellence and influence as a culinary city.
Chicago lost the following renowned Michelin-Starred restaurants:
Grace ***
L20 ***
Charlie Trotter **
Tru **
Sixteen **
Grahm Elliot **
42 Grams **
Alinea has been the lone "world's best restaurant" type of establishments in Chicago for a long time now. Curtis Duffy will probably end up with 3 stars now that he has opened Ever in Fulton Market and Jose Andreas who has stars in D.C. is opening a fine dining restaurant in the Loop.
According to this list, Chicago is among the top 15 cities in the world with most Michelin stars. Las Vegas didn't make the cut:
That's old, Chicago is down to Alinea as the only 3-starred restaurant in the city and there's only 3 with two-stars now. It's down to 30 total from 33 in 2018.
Chicago has been in a slump of adding to the stars that they have. Some very prominent chefs have walked away from highly profitable two and three-star places for various reasons. A couple famous chefs with multiple stars left Chicago altogether to open restaurants in San Francisco and New York. Every year they lose some gain some, mostly one-star places. Like I said two world renowned chefs have new restaurants in Chicago now and Curtis Duffy had 3 stars for a few years before leaving Grace. His new restaurant in Fulton Market, 'Ever' opened last month and is receiving phenomenal reviews. He will certainly be awarded 3 stars. This could be the catalyst for fine-dining reemerging in Chicago if they both have success.
I saw an interview with the director of Michelin while he was in Chicago and he was asked if Chicago is judged more harshly since its distinguished reputation as a world class food city and it's awards from other publications and institutions isn't reflected in the Michelin Guide. He meandered and dodged the question.
That's old, Chicago is down to Alinea as the only 3-starred restaurant in the city and there's only 3 with two-stars now. It's down to 30 total from 33 in 2018.
Chicago has been in a slump of adding to the stars that they have. Some very prominent chefs have walked away from highly profitable two and three-star places for various reasons. A couple famous chefs with multiple stars left Chicago altogether to open restaurants in San Francisco and New York. Every year they lose some gain some, mostly one-star places. Like I said two world renowned chefs have new restaurants in Chicago now and Curtis Duffy had 3 stars for a few years before leaving Grace. His new restaurant in Fulton Market, 'Ever' opened last month and is receiving phenomenal reviews. He will certainly be awarded 3 stars. This could be the catalyst for fine-dining reemerging in Chicago if they both have success.
I saw an interview with the director of Michelin while he was in Chicago and he was asked if Chicago is judged more harshly since its distinguished reputation as a world class food city and it's awards from other publications and institutions isn't reflected in the Michelin Guide. He meandered and dodged the question.
The list is 2 years old, but a list from last year still says Chicago is still right there in the top 13 in the world. Las Vegas does not have more than Chicago. I'm not comparing Chicago to New York or SF, the original commenter said Las Vegas had more Michelin stars dining, which it does not.
The list is 2 years old, but a list from last year still says Chicago is still right there in the top 13 in the world. Las Vegas does not have more than Chicago.
I'm only speaking of Chicago's performance in terms of Chicago's potential and history. Not Vegas. I'm saying one would think Chicago would have at least double the restaurants with Michelin Stars given the size and influence of it's fine dining scene, not 22. Between 5-8 three-starred restaurants, not 1. Chicago has lost world renowned restaurants more than it is creating them yet there is an ecosystem of masterful chefs that circulated through some of the most highly regarded kitchens in the world. A place like Smyth has won AAA 5 Diamond award and other highest honors from reputable institutions for example and is rated favorbaly with the best in the world.
I'm only speaking of Chicago's performance in terms of Chicago's potential and history. Not Vegas. I'm saying one would think Chicago would have at least double the restaurants with Michelin Stars given the size and influence of it's fine dining scene, not 22. Between 5-8 three-starred restaurants, not 1. Chicago has lost world renowned restaurants more than it is creating them yet there is an ecosystem of masterful chefs that circulated through some of the most highly regarded kitchens in the world. A place like Smyth has won AAA 5 Diamond award and other highest honors from reputable institutions for example and is rated favorbaly with the best in the world.
Chicago as of last years Michelin list that is actually made the year before had 25 Michelin Restaurants up from 22. Yes it did lose one or 2 in 2019 list made in 2018.
The whole Michelin rating is somewhat a mystery though they have criteria found in this link.
Chicago ROSE for years and decades to a Culinary tier it clearly may or may not have peaked a a couple years ago? Before that NYC had it for many many decades and SF had a big portion and Chicago was not and still seen as FLYOVER for decades.
The Chicago forum is the WORST for Chicago demeaning and dying rants. NYC one is far from positive right now. BUT CHICAGO's is the most negative on C-D.
Though this Chicago vs Las Vegas debate bogged down on fine dining.... To declare Chicago's death even in a Culinary scene after it took decades to rise as it did. ( Do you locals think Chicago was seen as a culinary anything in the 80s?
Some seem to base all on this Chicago 2000 to 2017 timeframe as if Chicago enjoyed that level for decades and now suddenly IS DYING over one year the whole Nation endures issues ..... and crime is a awful scourge ongoing yet. Northern cities get hit worst in doomsday scenarios that even NYC is being given Catholic Death Bed Prayers called - Last Rites.
Las Vegas was founded as a Tourist Resort Gambling Capital. It has evolved to more a real city. Still known for Vegas and what Vegas is and was for decades.... A Gambling Resort City with that Niche. High Rollers have increased its high end eating scene almost ALWAYS Associated with a Casino.
Chicago's did not develop that way.... nor was seen as such for a century as NYC. To say Chicago should have more????? Well, one must realize its history was not seen as a Top Tier Culinary Scene and for decades labeled FLYOVER.
Many may be young here and judge all by last 10 yrs too.
I'm only speaking of Chicago's performance in terms of Chicago's potential and history. Not Vegas. I'm saying one would think Chicago would have at least double the restaurants with Michelin Stars given the size and influence of it's fine dining scene, not 22. Between 5-8 three-starred restaurants, not 1. Chicago has lost world renowned restaurants more than it is creating them yet there is an ecosystem of masterful chefs that circulated through some of the most highly regarded kitchens in the world. A place like Smyth has won AAA 5 Diamond award and other highest honors from reputable institutions for example and is rated favorbaly with the best in the world.
Considering how quick a city can lose 11 stars in 2 years, I think it's safe to say this is a very fluid measurement of "fine dining" that can quickly change in either direction. Even at 22 stars Chicago is still among the top fine dining cities in the world, not even talking about regular dining.
Regardless, as long as we can agree Chicago beats out Las Vegas on dining (including fine dining) then I have nothing to argue.
Las Vegas has one 3 star Michelin restaurant in the MGM Grand Casino.
Las Vegas has 10 total restaurants that Michelin has given 1 - 3 stars too.
Most are in Casinos or Hotels and NOT stand-alone restaurants.... one 2 star restaurant.
Chicago has 25 up from 22 Michelin star restaurants.
Chicago has one 3-star restaurant and like five or six with 2 stars.
Many are stand-alone restaurants or outside of Hotels even....
Michelin does this grading of restaurants like every 18-months I have read. So that is not merely every year but over-lapping years and still seen as a ultimate prize still. Other links of restaurants also give list. Just not having the level of a valued International prize as the Michelin one has.
Glad this top tier restaurant scene debate is over --- and all should just look up links before post are made as a reason to lessen a WHOLE CITY for such a thing as highest-end restaurants that few of us will ever eat at them anyway. Most likely if any a one star one if lucky and desire to pay the premium price and into this level of dining.
It still seems that without the tourism that Vegas gets and needs ..... many of these might not even exist. Chicago has a restaurant scene less based on tourism. Other aspects though like its downtown retail and attractions .... do need a level of tourism that currently is absent. The Pandemic certainly effects it all.
These stats are all still pre-pandemic levels and we do not know the full damage this pandemic will have. Sadly Vegas has more staying power for these types of eateries being in the Casinos and hotels associated with them.
*** Also no one calls Chicago or Vegas a London or Paris as cities their Nations fully prize and respect and give National Pride too. We see our cities as possible throw-away even our mighty NYC. Our cities are DEMEANED all across C-D currently as evil to dying and should be left to die.
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