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Old 08-27-2010, 09:30 AM
 
Location: America
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That's if you consider Austin, Fort Worth OR San Antonio Southern. OOPS!!! I just opened THE ultimate can of worms.
well let me put them back in for you.....cause i'm not getting back into this mess again

edit: nevermind. let's get this going. because i'm bored.
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Old 08-27-2010, 09:38 AM
 
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I don't and thats coming from an Asian person who has seen Mississippi, Arkansas, Alabama, North Florida, among other Southern states and areas.
I live in one of those cities that you think is southern, no one there talks like this:

YouTube - Tim McGraw - Southern Voice(Official Video)

No one talks like that. No one dresses like that. No one around me even listens to country music, I know only a few people who like country, but they all like another genre of music more.
okay? and everybody dresses and talks like that in charlotte? atlanta? birmingham? nashville? no.
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Old 08-27-2010, 09:39 AM
 
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I've noticed the same. From the people I've met from there that, Louisville seems to have a stronger connection with Ohio, in particular Cincinnati.
Don't forget Indiana, just across the river. There are some Louisville-Indianapolis connections that are pretty strong.

I knew that I was straddling regions in Louisville when I saw White Castle instead of Krystal and I began to see more Meijer stores than Super Walmarts.
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Old 08-27-2010, 09:43 AM
 
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I think both Houston and Dallas are doing the same. DTD and DTH are basically office parks....
don't ever say that again in life, spade. cities like dallas, houston, and atlanta may lack round-the-clock vibrancy, but they are not office parks

office park:


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Old 08-27-2010, 09:49 AM
 
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DOWNTOWN HOUSTON:

http://www.toddicus.com/houston%20downtown%20kiam2.JPG

DOWNTOWN DALLAS:
http://www.dallaswestend.org/uploaded/about/020.JPG (broken link)
http://www.dallaswestend.org/uploaded/about/020.JPG (broken link)

DOWNTOWN ATLANTA:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/...e6978eafaa.jpg
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Old 08-27-2010, 09:55 AM
 
Location: metro ATL
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LOL, nah. I've only been serious about one girl and I married her

As for South Carolina's rep, I agree that it's completely undeserved. South Carolina has, from my experience of going places all other planet, probably the friendliest people. The best example I can give would be if you are in South Carolina, and you do the Southern "How you doin'?" salute, the people there will actually tell you how they are doing. In detail.
And that can work against you sometimes if you have some place to be, LOL.

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As for Charleston, it's a beautiful town but to me it lacks that extra "umph" that Savannah and New Orleans give you.
The only thing that Charleston lacks compared to New Orleans and Savannah is a party, get-drunk-off-your-ass atmosphere. Charleston is too refined and regal for all that, LOL.
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Old 08-27-2010, 10:02 AM
 
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Is that your idea of southern???
You're probably more likely to see that in TX or OK than you will in AL or MS. TN may be an exception.
Tim McGraw is from Louisiana anyhow. Northern Louisiana at that, so I still say he's pretty southern.
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Old 08-27-2010, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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don't ever say that again in life, spade. cities like dallas, houston, and atlanta may lack round-the-clock vibrancy, but they are not office parks

office park:

I'm sorry but my comment stands. Why did you leave off the rest of the post? They are basically giant office parks relative to other downtowns throughout the nation in that they largely lack vibrancy and cohesion to an extent. Both die after about 5:00. Just like office parks. While they don't look like your ordinary office park. It functions as one as hardly anyone lives in both downtowns and the nightlife is not as popular yet through it's growing.
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Old 08-27-2010, 10:10 AM
 
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I'm sorry but my comment stands. Why did you leave off the rest of the post? They are basically giant office parks relative to other downtowns throughout the nation in that they largely lack vibrancy and cohesion to an extent. Both die after about 5:00. Just like office parks. While they don't look like your ordinary office park. It functions as one as hardly anyone lives in both downtowns and the nightlife is not as popular yet through it's growing.
you can say all of that without saying office park. when you call those downtowns office parks, it gives them the undeserved representation of not having any character or value to the city. when that is clearly not true. it's bad enough people up north say stuff like that
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Old 08-27-2010, 10:14 AM
 
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I'm sorry but my comment stands. Why did you leave off the rest of the post? They are basically giant office parks relative to other downtowns throughout the nation in that they largely lack vibrancy and cohesion to an extent. Both die after about 5:00. Just like office parks. While they don't look like your ordinary office park. It functions as one as hardly anyone lives in both downtowns and the nightlife is not as popular yet through it's growing.
I've always theorized that DT Atlanta, Houston, and Dallas (and I'll throw in their Grandaddy, Los Angeles) are simply the products of the eras in which they grew. Since those cities "grew up" in the Postwar Boom in the mid-20th century when people were flocking towards the suburbs and the Interstate Highway System were built in this era (1950s-1980s), so there was no incentive to go Downtown like you had to in the more established cities of the Northeast and Midwest. A lot of the younger generation doesn't realize that for many baby boomers, Downtowns were "no go" zones for years. You went to work, drove the hell out and went back home at the end of the day.

It also doesn't help that the designs of their Downtowns were not conducive to pedestrian, street-level traffic. DT Dallas and Houston have the tunnel systems that are used, and DT Atlanta has Peachtree Center, which emphasized a "city-within-a-city" concept and helped to discourage street-level, pedestrian traffic because the buildings and hotels were connected via skywalks.

Regarding the Dallas and Houston tunnel systems, I always thought they should look to Downtown Toronto as a model on how to combine their Tunnel systems and Public Transportation with street level pedestrian activity (though it can be argued that Eaton Centre killed a LOT of pedestrian activity in DT Toronto). The bones are there, they just need the vision to get them altogether.

I'm glad to see the changes that have been made to help their Downtown areas, but I will say that they have a long way to go. They may not literally be office parks, but relative to other downtown areas of major cities in other parts of the country, I can see how this argument can be made. It's not fair, but hey, neither is life.
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