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A few pages back you made a joke about sprawl, sprawl refers to the metro "which is not the same thing as the city" being call a poster child for sprawl do you know by the same group the CNU, Atlanta is consider a posterchild for New urbanism? You want a neighborhood like that OK. No downtown, midtown or Atlantic station.
Now 5ive8ight5ive does all of Cincinnati look like that? NO so is the rest of Cincinnati is sauburban because it dosen't meet the standard by your link? I not arguing Atlanta has more urban neighborhoods than Cincinnati I give Cincinnati the nod. My recation is to NJPhilliesPhan calling Castleberry Hill, Sweet Auburn, Cabbagetown, Old Fourth Ward and etc suburban well than post images that's more common of Cincinnati density that make Castleberry Hill, Sweet Auburn, Cabbagetown, Old Fourth Ward suburban. Seeing is believing because I’m looking at google earth at both cities and thinking what he’s saying is bull crap.
This is more typical of Cincinnati, compare to the Atlanta neighborhoods which posters have been saying and yall have been nay saying. The home lot plots are about the same the only difference is the architecture. Since the development density is about the same if yall calling those Atlanta neighborhoods suburban old 4th ward, Sweet Auburn, Cabbagetown and etc what would that make Cincinnati? Is Cincinnati urban like the Bronx or something to make Sweet Aurburn and etc suburban.
The city of Atlanta DOES NOT SPRAWL! The suburbs sprawl, but every suburban region in the United States reflects "sprawl." The Chicago region sprawls. Long Island sprawls. Northern Virginia sprawls. South Florida sprawls. The Bay Area sprawls. Orange County sprawls.
The cities of Houston, Dallas and Los Angeles all sprawl within their corporate boundaries. So stop this stupid sprawl-Atlanta bashing. It's a BIG FAT LIE!
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Maybe people are being thrown off by two things when they say "Atlanta isn't urban"
1. The streets. Streets in Intown Atlanta neighborhoods by and large (but not exclusively) are wide because they were built for cars...but not automobiles. Atlanta neighborhoods were built around the streetcar. The streets were made wide to accommodate two way trolley traffic. It just so happens that width works perfect for automobiles.
2. The trees. As odd as it may seem, Atlanta has a lot of trees on purpose. For one, the region it is in is heavily treed, but there is a historical context. After the Civil War and ensuing reconstruction period, many trees were either destroyed during the battles and those that were left were cleared during the reconstruction period for various reasons. Due to the type of soil in the area however, the land became this think unmovable muck every time it rained which happens a lot (we get more rain than pretty much every major city than Honolulu). There was a big movement to replant trees (the horror) to the point that now the city is the largest urban forest in the country.
It is literally a "City in a Forest" not a "City with a Forest". Additionally, it is illegal to cut down a healthy tree in the city without approval of the City Arborist...one person who can take up to 2 years to inspect the tree or trees that want to be cut down and THEN give approval to cut it down. This has led to a lot of development in the city to be of the vertical variety. You get more bang for your buck and don't have to wait years to begin construction while you wait for the Arborist to inspect the lot if you choose a treeless lot and build up and up.
At least I think that's what throwing them off. No one has come with an argument for why Atlanta isn't urban other than "it isn't", "not like what urban looks like where I'm from", or "Cincy has a lot of old buildings".
Atlanta seems very suburban, and it boomed much later than Cincinnati did, so on that I choose Cinci.
SIGH ... this is endless and pointless. Look, I don't really give a $@&# whether Cincinnati or Atlanta is more "urban" or "dense." But I will take Atlanta's rolling hills, winding streets, towering tree canopy and stunning residential neighborhoods over whatever Cincy has to offer any day. So what if Atlanta "seems" very suburban -- it is one of the most breathtakingly beautiful cities in this country because of that fact, and I hope it never changes.
SIGH ... this is endless and pointless. Look, I don't really give a $@&# whether Cincinnati or Atlanta is more "urban" or "dense." But I will take Atlanta's rolling hills, winding streets, towering tree canopy and stunning residential neighborhoods over whatever Cincy has to offer any day. So what if Atlanta "seems" very suburban -- it is one of the most breathtakingly beautiful cities in this country because of that fact, and I hope it never changes.
If urban = ugly, NO THANKS!
I don't see the need to jump all over me for having an opinion. If everyone agreed with you there wouldn't be a point in this topic, would it?
I don't see the need to jump all over me for having an opinion. If everyone agreed with you there wouldn't be a point in this topic, would it?
Cincinnati wins hands down.
Wins what? Even if Cincinnati is more urban by your definition the OP asked people to vote based on which city is the best to live,work and play in not which is more urban.
Besides. By the narrow minded definition of urban you guys go by Baltimore is more urban than Tokyo. Because it has more brick buildings, row houses, old buildings, is more gritty more like New York, Philly, etc..
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