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The San Francisco MSA murder rate is higher in the 2012 FBI stats I submitted, and, ironically, also bore out in the 2010 FBI stats you submitted. Both years posted show a lower murder rate for the Atlanta MSA.
What do you not understand?
Also, you can call me a homer but I have significant grievances with Atlanta. I'm about as far from a homer as you'll find on city-data. As for Ant, that poster downright hates Atlanta in most regards. But he's honest and, more importantly, he's right about this. As am I.
Not yet as far as Denver being world class in the sense you're referring to, but the thread's purpose "Which cities are maturing into World Class" is to identify which cities are heading that direction, not which cities are already there. I think Denver is. Its museum collections have been growing significantly, it's getting denser and the transit is becoming much more multi-modal, it's also very rich, which certainly helps, and it's growing fast. Of the cities the OP mentioned, I think Atlanta had a step up on it until the recovery. Now, I'm not sure whether Atlanta or Denver will reach world class status first. Certainly both are far enough away that a major disaster or financial collapse could prevent them from reaching that, but I think both are on a good trajectory.
We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't see "world class" status as something too many cities get to (hence the classification of "world"). Most cities will never get there. I struggle to classify more than a small handful of American cities as world class. Non world class cities can certainly have world class attributes or strong attributes however. Recognizing that we're talking about "maturing into world class", maybe some of these cities are, but they're probably something like 25% of the way there. JMO.
I've been to some of Denver's museums recently. Denver Art Museum is certainly a very strong museum (love the collection of Indian art), but world class? Eh. The Nature and Science Museum is also nice, but world class? Eh. Downtown still gets pretty quiet at night (was there last summer from Thurs - Sun). Amenities are growing, but nothing that's world class. The 16th Street Mall is a good implementation for the US (pedestrian and transit based), but it's very "chainy" and feels too segregated from significant residential populations...something that's getting better, but a far far shot from where the best cities in the world stand. Again JMO.
We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't see "world class" status as something too many cities get to (hence the classification of "world"). Most cities will never get there. I struggle to classify more than a small handful of American cities as world class. Non world class cities can certainly have world class attributes or strong attributes however. Recognizing that we're talking about "maturing into world class", maybe some of these cities are, but they're probably something like 25% of the way there. JMO.
I've been to some of Denver's museums recently. Denver Art Museum is certainly a very strong museum (love the collection of Indian art), but world class? Eh. The Nature and Science Museum is also nice, but world class? Eh. Downtown still gets pretty quiet at night (was there last summer from Thurs - Sun). Amenities are growing, but nothing that's world class. The 16th Street Mall is a good implementation for the US (pedestrian and transit based), but it's very "chainy" and feels too segregated from significant residential populations...something that's getting better, but a far far shot from where the best cities in the world stand. Again JMO.
How about fortune 500 companies, the education, and G.D.P?
Museums aren't really that important in real life.
As a metro, Atlanta has a LOWER murder rate than many U.S. metros including Miami, Chicago, and your West Coast darling San Francisco (likely because it's MSA includes Oakland).
By your own stats, SF and Atlanta are separated by one tenth of a percentage point so it's not like Atlanta's MSA murder is wayyy lower- theyre about the same, no?
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