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Alpha-: Dallas,Atlanta, Boston, Houston, Philadelphia
Beta+: Miami
I just can't take Miami serious on a business or economical level. Yes it has strong ties with Latin America, but that just helps my point even more. The cities listed above it are more World players [such as their importance isn't as one sided and more balanced].
The issue with Dallas/Atlanta vs Houston is simply more about popularity. Houston's importance is obviously more superior [don't even try to dispute it; you're lying to yourself if you think otherwise]; however, Dallas and Atlanta have more appeal and presence on a international level. It evens itself out when you put everything into perspective. Houston is in a position to where it could move ahead and leave the other major southern cities in it dust; it's just that the city leaders haven't realized its potential.
I think this makes more sense to me actually though if Miami is moved down I would also place Atlanta in the same tier - to me they are basically equals as to me are Houston/DFW and Philly/Boston
I think this makes more sense to me actually though if Miami is moved down I would also place Atlanta in the same tier - to me they are basically equals as to me are Houston/DFW and Philly/Boston
What influenced my placing of Atlanta was simply due to the fact that it's pretty much the powerhouse of the southeast and regionally it does more for this country than Miami. Its international importance isn't that significant, but it's there and not as limited as Miami's.
Why did you bump up Philly to Alpha, ahead of Boston, LA and DC??? Why did you bump down DC and LA to Alpha neg?
The rest I can see.
Alpha++ : New York
Alpha+: Chicago
Alpha: San Francisco, Philadelphia
Alpha-: Los Angeles, Boston, Washington
Beta+: Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, Miami
Beta: Minneapolis, Seattle, Detroit
Personally, I think that Chicago has always been America's second city. Even though it has been surpassed in population by Los Angeles, it remains a very diversified economy, with the second largest stock exchange and second most comprehensive public transit system in the nation (behind NYC, and NYC - respectively). Chicago also just has a richer history than LA, and its skyline proves that. Chicago's GDP also beats Los Angeles'. Global Cities 2010: The Rankings | Foreign Policy
Below that, I looked at cities that have very established urban cores. I think that SF and Philly are a head & shoulder above the rest. Both of them have very diversified economies, are strategically located, have established mass transit, and are hubs for tourism.
I really just don't see Los Angeles as that great of a city. Sure, it's huge. That doesn't make it great. Phoenix is huge too.......
As far as Boston/DC being below SF and Philly, I think the four of them are the most important cities in the US to round out the top 6. I just wanted to distinguish two from two.
Location: NY-NJ-Philly looks down at SF and laughs at the hippies
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No because that poster is in some fantasy land where Miami dominates the American southeast over Atlanta.
I never said "Miami dominates Atlanta". Show me where I implied it or flat out said it, I haven't. I believe Miami is one tier or slightly more important than Atlanta.
Now, if you want to call me out I have no problem with doing the same. Your posts come across as chest pounding/boosting Atlanta and acting as if it dominates everything in the Southeast. Actually, your posts come across as if Atlanta dominates the whole south in general, it's called homerism.
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And I have ideal where he or she getting it should be above DFW either. I can't even think of a global ranking with Miami ahead Atlanta and Dallas. I accept Miami maybe equal in some instance but over them?
I think Miami and Atlanta are arguably pretty equal. Miami's location makes it a great port city. Atlanta is pretty landlocked, but has the world's busiest airport.
Both metro's are similar in size, hmm..... I think they're a very good comparison.
I never said "Miami dominates Atlanta". Show me where I implied it or flat out said it, I haven't. I believe Miami is one tier or slightly more important than Atlanta.
Now, if you want to call me out I have no problem with doing the same. Your posts come across as chest pounding/boosting Atlanta and acting as if it dominates everything in the Southeast. Actually, your posts come across as if Atlanta dominates the whole south in general, it's called homerism.
And as if Atlanta dominate Miami - last I looked FL is by far the largest state in the SE and Miami is the most influential city in FL
Atlanta for the piedmont is the most influential city but does NC really go by way of Atlanta, i mean are Charlotte and RDU some minion to Atlanta, doesnt seem it though I woud agree that Atlanta expounds regional influence further than most cities its size
Honestly and this is not a slight against Atlanta but if truly were as intrumental as some suggest the GDP and Income would be higher IMHO
Alpha++ : New York
Alpha+: Chicago
Alpha: Los Angeles, San Francisco, Washington
Alpha-: Miami, Boston, Dallas, Atlanta, Philadelphia
My Changes in Red:
Alpha++ : New York
Alpha+: Chicago, Los Angeles,
Alpha: San Francisco, Washington, Boston
Alpha-: Miami, Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, Philadelphia
I think the only thing they got right was moving Philly to an Alpha.
Since everyone is including Beta Cities now, this is how I would revise my list
Alpha++ : New York
Alpha+: Los Angeles
Alpha: Chicago, Washington
Alpha-: San Francisco (It seems GaWC separated SJ from SF so I dropped it down from Alpha), Boston
Beta+: Houston, Philadelphia
Beta: DFW, Atlanta, Miami
Beta-: Detroit, Seattle
Gamma +: Minneapolis, Denver, San Jose
Gamma: STL, San Diego, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Phoenix, Tampa, Charlotte, Orlando
Gamma- : Kansas City, Pittsburgh, Austin, Columbus, Indianapolis, SLC, Sacramento, Milwaukee, Cleveland
High Sufficiency: Las Vegas, Birmingham, Richmond, New Orleans, Raleigh, Memphis, Jacksonville, san Antonio
Sufficiency: Nashville, Rochester, Buffalo, Providence
HTown, what is your rationale for putting some cities in Gamma and some in Gamma- ?
-in my mind, many of these cities are on the same par. I would make the following changes:
Chicago's GDP is not greater than that of Los Angeles'.
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