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Oh, interesting! Where on the Jersey Shore, just curious?
The Staten Island Ferry is popular with commuters. There are also MTA buses on SI, within SI and connecting it to Brooklyn and I believe there is a line that runs to Manhattan via NJ (Bayonne Bridge) from SI, and it has its own train system running across the island, ending actually in the ferry terminal.
The SI Ferry runs every half hour for 24 hours, 7 days a week. At rush hour in the afternoon, it runs every 15 minutes. It is a very popular method of transportation for commuters and tourists alike.
Not to mention, the view from the ferry must be quite spectacular. The few times I've taken the ferry from Downtown Oakland to Downtown SF for work have been awesome--Im sure the SI-Manhattan ride is at least as nice, if not more so.
As far as subways, I did some research and while Staten Island is not connected to the rest of the city via subway, which is very strange imo, it does have the Staten Island Railway which is a 14-mile long commuter rail(?).
Passenger Exits by Oakland BART stations, Oct 2012
19th St 11,845
12th St 13,263
Macarthur 9,674
Coliseum 9,192
Fruitvale 8,574
Lake Merritt 6,924
West Oakland 6,140
Rockridge 6,107 Total Daily BART passengers in Oakland: 71,719
If we counted passengers that traveled through Oakland, the number rises to over 75% of all BART passengers as Oakland is the nexus of all BART lines.
I think it would be nice for Oakland to have it's own intracity LRT though, we're working on BRT tho.
Not to mention, the view from the ferry must be quite spectacular. The few times I've taken the ferry from Downtown Oakland to Downtown SF for work have been awesome--Im sure the SI-Manhattan ride is at least as nice, if not more so.
Passenger Exits by Oakland BART stations, Oct 2012
19th St 11,845
12th St 13,263
Macarthur 9,674
Coliseum 9,192
Fruitvale 8,574
Lake Merritt 6,924
West Oakland 6,140
Rockridge 6,107 Total Daily BART passengers in Oakland: 71,719
If we counted passengers that traveled through Oakland, the number rises to over 75% of all BART passengers as Oakland is the nexus of all BART lines.
I think it would be nice for Oakland to have it's own intracity LRT though, we're working on BRT tho.
Glad to see you got your account back (assuming your the real 18Montclair and not the alleged hacker).
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As far as subways, I did some research and while Staten Island is not connected to the rest of the city via subway, which is very strange imo, it does have the Staten Island Railway which is a 14-mile long commuter rail(?)
There were plans in the 1920's to connect the Staten Island Railway to Brooklyn but the tunnel was never built. Building a subway tunnel from Staten Island to Manhattan and directly linking it to the New York City Subway system is extremely expensive and it also doesn't help that Staten Island is the least populated borough in the city. Not to mention building a subway tunnel would certainly put the Staten Island Ferry out of business.
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Glad to see you got your account back assuming your the real 18Montclair and not the alleged hacker.
Thanks.
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There were plans in the 1920's to connect the Staten Island Railway to Brooklyn but the tunnel was never built. Building a subway tunnel from Staten Island to Manhattan and directly linking it to the New York City Subway system is extremely expensive and it also doesn't help that Staten Island is the least populated borough in the city. Not to mention building a subway tunnel would certainly but the Staten Island Ferry out of business.
True, but most people don't use Public Transit on Staten Island(or Oakland for that matter), not even to get to work.
Employed Persons who Drive Alone to Work, 2012
Staten Island 56.5%
Oakland 54.9%
However, we were talking about Staten Island to Manhattan. The % using public transit to get Manhattan is much higher than commutes elsewhere.
Oddly, the percent commuting by public transit is higher in Staten Island than in Oakland even if driving alone is roughly similar.
Employed Persons who take Public Transportation to Work
Staten Island 30.3%
Oakland 17.1%
While the rail ridership in Staten Island is low, the bus ridership is higher. For Manhattan commutes, either express buses or bus to ferry is the most common method.
As far as subways, I did some research and while Staten Island is not connected to the rest of the city via subway, which is very strange imo, it does have the Staten Island Railway which is a 14-mile long commuter rail(?).
The Staten Island Railway uses the same equipment as the NYC subway and run by the same agency. Frequencies are lower, especially off peak, and the line is entirely surface.
However, we were talking about Staten Island to Manhattan. The % using public transit to get Manhattan is much higher than commutes elsewhere.
Well I was talking about transportation in general. Most Staten Islanders drive to work, just like most Oaklanders.
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Oddly, the percent commuting by public transit is higher in Staten Island than in Oakland even if driving alone is roughly similar.
Employed Persons who take Public Transportation to Work
Staten Island 30.3%
Oakland 17.1%
Part of that is because so many Staten Islanders leave during the day to work elsewhere-most of the Manhattan bound commuters almost certainly take transit:
Net Daytime Population Change, 2010
Oakland +19,330
Staten Island -82,128
Staten Island has 70,000 more people than Oakland, but Oakland is actually more populated than Staten Island during workdays.
Daytime Population, 2010
Oakland 406,239
Staten Island 381,322
Oh, interesting! Where on the Jersey Shore, just curious?
Point Pleasant area, though they got flooded during Sandy, home took some damage, so they spent a lot of the last year down in Florida near my grandma's home near St. Augustine.
That's kind of how people are all over the place. I've seen the same things from transplants living in San Diego, LA, and the Bay Area. They didn't exactly live in a happening or interesting part of those cities and lived in areas most people have never even heard of but they just identified it as what most would know the area as. No one really knows Staten Island so of course they'll say New York City. As most wouldn't know El Cajon or Oceanside and instead say San Diego.
Only neighborhoods that come to my mind when I think of San Diego are La Jolla, Gaslamp Quarter, Chula Vista, and Balboa Park.
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