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The OP said add Arlington, Somerville and Watertown. If you do, the dense areas might be larger in "Cambridge".
There's nowhere as concentratedly urban in Cambridge? Cambridge has lots of jobs, maybe it doesn't have the job concentration of Downtown Oakland but it doesn't have a very large daytime population and probably more people on the streets / pedestrian volume.
Mostly agree, though will say Cambridge functions slightly more as an extension of Boston proper than does Oakland (Cambridge et al is closer and more cohesive overall IMHO) to SF (But either would be a shell today without their counterpart)
Also am pretty sure the job centers are pretty comparable, Cambridge is growing like crazy in that context.
The OP said add Arlington, Somerville and Watertown. If you do, the dense areas might be larger in "Cambridge".
There's nowhere as concentratedly urban in Cambridge? Cambridge has lots of jobs, maybe it doesn't have the job concentration of Downtown Oakland but it doesn't have a very large daytime population and probably more people on the streets / pedestrian volume.
They might be larger, they might not. People underestimate how dense most of Oakland is... the O/A density does not reflect the actual density of most of the city.
And no, Cambridge does not have an area as urban as DT Oakland.
They might be larger, they might not. People underestimate how dense most of Oakland is... the O/A density does not reflect the actual density of most of the city.
And no, Cambridge does not have an area as urban as DT Oakland.
I agree but the inner 6 sq miles of Oakland I don't think is as urban as Cambridge as a Whole.
Mostly agree, though will say Cambridge functions slightly more as an extension of Boston proper than does Oakland (Cambridge et al is closer and more cohesive overall IMHO) to SF (But either would be a shell today without their counterpart)
Also am pretty sure the job centers are pretty comparable, Cambridge is growing like crazy in that context.
In some ways true, in some ways not. The port of Oakland has always been the major port in the Bay Area, and Oakland acted as the continental transit hub for the Bay Area via the Southern Pacific & Amtrak - and particularly for immigrants - up until the 1980's. Oakland has always been more of an industrial town... there used to be so many car manufacturers (Durant Motors, a Chevy factory, a Chrysler plant, etc.) that it became known as the Detroit of the West. Economy-wise, Oakland did not depend on SF at all... their economies were completely different.
Even today Oakland is still economically independent of SF. The main way that Oakland has benefited from its proximity to SF in the last 30 years is in terms of its downtown area... a lot of SF transplants who could not afford SF moved to DT Oakland and the neighborhoods around Lake Merritt. In that sense, DT Oakland would be a shell of itself if not for SF being close-by. However, the rest of Oakland runs almost entirely independent of SF. The only thing that's changed is that more people in SF - and through them the rest of the country - have "discovered" what Oakland has to offer, which some will argue is for better or worse.
I agree but the inner 6 sq miles of Oakland I don't think is as urban as Cambridge as a Whole.
You'd be surprised... Oakland's densest area isn't even in DT Oakland, it's in East Oakland. East Oakland between 1st avenue and High Street (around 40 x 40 blocks) is very consistently dense and has no shortage of retail, amenities, etc. That whole area is contiguous to DT Oakland, which is obviously also very dense.
Looks like Cambridge is going to get an Amazon headquarters, as well---good news for jobseekers!
If you really want density, look to Somerville, the national capital of triple-decker homes..
Man I am really partial to Oakland, but I can't deny that the Somerville / Cambridge combo is a pretty awesome place to live too. Love Davis Square and Porter Square. I worked at a place around Kendall that had incredible views of Back Bay.
Cambridge is home to Harvard, Oakland is home to one of the highest crime rates in all of America. Enough said.
Oakland has some redeeming Charactristics, such as a large seaport, and a central Downtown (something Cambridge Doest Have) and its crime rate is on par with Atlanta and Philly, not Detroit, and East St Louis, though it is Much higher than Cambridge
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Oakland has some redeeming Charactristics, such as a large seaport, and a central Downtown (something Cambridge Doest Have) and its crime rate is on par with Atlanta and Philly, not Detroit, and East St Louis, though it is Much higher than Cambridge
No, the crime rate is much higher than Philly or Atlanta. I suggest looking up stats first.
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