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Old 11-15-2012, 07:19 PM
 
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^ Philly definitely deserves to be in the top 5. It has a much better, busier, more dense and vibrant downtown than LA, that's for sure.
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Old 11-16-2012, 05:50 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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^ Philly definitely deserves to be in the top 5. It has a much better, busier, more dense and vibrant downtown than LA, that's for sure.
I wouldn't say it's much of anything more than DTLA, but on the whole I'd still put it ahead of DTLA. The "Downtown LA is Dead" argument carries about as much weight as "Redheaded women smell".

New York is #1
Chicago or San Francisco are like 2 and 2a to me.
Philadelphia is #3
Seattle and Los Angeles are interchangable for #4
and Washington or Boston...really I can't decide.
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:15 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Philadelphia the top 5? I'd put Seattle, LA, Boston and Denver/Minneapolis in order first before I'd put Philadephia. Check out the cities and see for yourselves. Philly is only average and improving.
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Old 11-17-2012, 04:39 PM
 
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^ Philly definitely deserves to be in the top 5. It has a much better, busier, more dense and vibrant downtown than LA, that's for sure.
I don't think so. I'd put it below the top 10 from my experience

What about New Orleans, Portland, San Antonio, Indianapolis, Denver and washington DC? They're all better and more dynamic than Dt. Philly.
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Old 11-17-2012, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Shaw.
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I like how you pretend you don't have an agenda.
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:14 AM
 
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A few photos of Philly of mine taken recently.













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Old 11-18-2012, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I like how you pretend you don't have an agenda.
Haha
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:57 PM
 
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Since this is purely subjective, not necessarily in order:

New York
Chicago
San Francisco
Boston
Philadelphia
Washington
Seattle
Los Angeles
Portland
Minneapolis
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Old 12-02-2012, 01:29 PM
 
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Now, we're talking about how attractive downtowns are. San Diego started this whole nationwide downtown revitalizations trend back in 1984. They built the Horton's Plaza shopping mall and a light rail system back then. It was a role model for revitalizing downtowns across the country. It's safe to say if San Diego didn't do this revitalization, all the downtown across the country would still be blighted, including Denver, Los Angeles, Philly, Boston, Indianapolis, Portland, Seattle, Baltimore and all small and big cities alike. Thanks to the pioneer downtown reviver, San Diego! San Diego started this whole nationwide trend of cities revitalizing themselves.
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Old 12-02-2012, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Medfid
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Now, we're talking about how attractive downtowns are. San Diego started this whole nationwide downtown revitalizations trend back in 1984. They built the Horton's Plaza shopping mall and a light rail system back then. It was a role model for revitalizing downtowns across the country. It's safe to say if San Diego didn't do this revitalization, all the downtown across the country would still be blighted, including Denver, Los Angeles, Philly, Boston, Indianapolis, Portland, Seattle, Baltimore and all small and big cities alike. Thanks to the pioneer downtown reviver, San Diego! San Diego started this whole nationwide trend of cities revitalizing themselves.
Boston started its urban renewal process in 1959. This is a different scenario than what you described (we already had a light rail system, and rather than build a mall we tore an entire neighborhood down) but it was done to clean up and revitalize the city in a way....
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