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That city is sports crazy and with under 3 million people it's amazing how well they consistantly support their teams of not only the top four leagues, but also MLS, MLL and minor league hockey.
Well, technically, the Arizona Cardinals and Phoenix Coyotes play in Glendale, Arizona not Phoenix. So no, the city of Phoenix does not have the big 4.
Absolutely idiotic arguement. By your logic the Dallas Cowboys should actuall be the Arlington Cowboys.
Absolutely idiotic arguement. By your logic the Dallas Cowboys should actuall be the Arlington Cowboys.
If you guys have been paying attention to the thread instead of personally attacking me, it's in response to the whole "Bay Area shouldn't count as one" idea because each of the teams play in a different city despite being in the same media market.
i think the only thing nuttier than putting rubio ahead of chris paul is stating that ryan howard is a better hitter than albert pujols
not sure what metric you are using for that.........
Howard is a power hitter and if you take away his first two seasons (one was a call up and the other he didn't play the full year) he has put up 44 HRs per year over the past 6 years ...... works out to be about 1 HR per every 13 ABs over that time
However, Pujols puts up 40 hrs per year on average for his 11 year career (works out to be 1 HR per every 14 ABs) and doesn't play in the shoebox that is CBP
So there is a slight - very slight - HR edge to Howard and that arguably could be explained by home stadium difference
From there the comparisons go way down hill
Pujols career BA .328 / Howard .275
Pujols career OPS 1.037 / Howard .928
Pujols career BB/PA .131 / Howard .122
Pujols career BB/K 1.39 / Howard .45
In 1,027 games played and 3,794 ABs Howard has struck out 1,207 times
In 1,705 games played and 6,315 ABs Pujols has struck out 704 times
Howard has a nice bat - but he isn't close to Pujols as a hitter
If you guys have been paying attention to the thread instead of personally attacking me, it's in response to the whole "Bay Area shouldn't count as one" idea because each of the teams play in a different city despite being in the same media market.
It's your own fault for not titling the thread "Best sports media market in the West". Instead you said city, and every option is a city except for the Bay Area, which has three cities with their own teams and sports identities, to an extent at least - with some crossover, of course. Surely you can see why some have protested.
It's your own fault for not titling the thread "Best sports media market in the West". Instead you said city, and every option is a city except for the Bay Area, which has three cities with their own teams and sports identities, to an extent at least - with some crossover, of course. Surely you can see why some have protested.
I actually only see 2 people protesting it, and I actually agree with you, but the Bay Area posters wouldn't. So in their interest, I don't want to cause a protracted flame war over something ancillary to the topic at hand.
And ADMIT or DENY that Glendale, AZ is not Phoenix, AZ, since at least half of pro teams in that region are in Glendale, AZ.
It's all phoenix .... not a matter of media market, but it's the same metro area
I work in phoenix but frequently have lunch in glendale (and live in a different city altogether) ..... it's all phoenix though
Oakland & SF are a little bit like that (a little more difficult because they do have a physical barrier between them, where in phoenix you can just walk down the street and the only thing that changes is the sign/mailing address) .... but SJ isn't
SJ would be like phoenix & casa grande, if casa grande had anything going for it
not part of the city, but still part of the metro area
although you can't ignore all the development on the bay, the dotting on the cities on the bay and how they are all very tied to each other
you forgot one:
the los angeles rams won the 1951 nfl championship, which was the only one of their three titles that was captured while the team was based in LA.
If you were to extend out to revenue-generating college sports, USC football and UCLA hoops have 11 each.
I actually only see 2 people protesting it, and I actually agree with you, but the Bay Area posters wouldn't. So in their interest, I don't want to cause a protracted flame war over something ancillary to the topic at hand.
And ADMIT or DENY that Glendale, AZ is not Phoenix, AZ, since at least half of pro teams in that region are in Glendale, AZ.
It's all phoenix .... not a matter of media market, but it's the same metro area
I work in phoenix but frequently have lunch in glendale (and live in a different city altogether) ..... it's all phoenix though
Oakland & SF are a little bit like that (a little more difficult because they do have a physical barrier between them, where in phoenix you can just walk down the street and the only thing that changes is the sign/mailing address) .... but SJ isn't
SJ would be like phoenix & casa grande, if casa grande had anything going for it
not part of the city, but still part of the metro area
although you can't ignore all the development on the bay, the dotting on the cities on the bay and how they are all very tied to each other
Bottom line is that there is a sentiment amongst some of the posters that the Bay Area media market shouldn't count as one because some of the sports teams are located in different municipalities, while also claiming that the city of Phoenix has all 4 teams.
Technically that isn't true. I hear what you're saying though, I'm just pointing out how the same logic could be used on other cities/metro areas and shows a lack of creativity IMO.
East Rutherford, New Jersey isn't New York City. Hell, its a totally different state than New York City, but that doesn't stop it from hosting the Giants and Jets. Santa Clara, California, which is right next to San Jose, is where the new 49er stadium is gonna be built, but they're keeping the 49er name.
Technicalities are overlooked in the real world, but they still exist, whether we like it or not.
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Make that 3
Articulate it, and I'm sure this will turn into 200 pages of questioning whether or not the Bay Area is a real metro area. I think we are all sick of that already.
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