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View Poll Results: Which is closer to a perfect metro?
NYC & Chicago 116 69.05%
SF & LA 52 30.95%
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Old 06-02-2012, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA
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There is just something about Mediterranean environments of the world that make them special (other four: Mediteranean basin/southern Europe, South Australia, the Cape of South Africa, and central Chile).
People here are sleeping on LA. Tell me where in NYC or Chicago you can get this.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:08 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Nice pics. LA is beautiful. But it would be much more appealing if it combined its beautiful natural setting and climate with world class urbanity. SF offers a better combination in that regard.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA
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Nice pics. LA is beautiful. But it would be much more appealing if it combined its beautiful natural setting and climate with world class urbanity. SF offers a better combination in that regard.
Define "world class urbanity" and then we'll have our debate.

West coast metros like LA and SF develop more similarly to places like Sao Paulo, Mexico City, Seoul, Kobe, Kyoto, Osaka, or Hong Kong. East coast metros look up to London or Paris.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:53 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Define "world class urbanity" and then we'll have our debate.

West coast metros like LA and SF develop more similarly to places like Sao Paulo, Mexico City, Seoul, Kobe, Kyoto, Osaka, or Hong Kong. East coast metros look up to London or Paris.
Dense, walkable, "buzzy" (i.e. lots of people on the streets), intimate neighborhoods, extensive PT, nightlife that goes past 2am, etc.

There is little that LA has in common with any of the cities you listed.
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Old 06-02-2012, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA
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Dense
Zip codes 90057, 90020, 90005, 90006, 90029, 90017, 90011, 90004, 90038, 90028, 90037 all have densities higher than 20,000 people per S.M.

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Is that not dense?
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walkable
Los Angeles Rentals, Apartments, and Neighborhoods on Walk Score

Its impressive how a city with 500 miles of land is as walkable as LA, much more impressive than Boston. LA has 11 neighborhoods above 80% walkscore to Boston's 15 but Boston has nothing as populated as Hollywood, Koreatown, or Westlake.
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"buzzy" (i.e. lots of people on the streets)
Chinatown LA
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Street food
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Hollywood district
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central LA
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intimate neighborhoods
Intimate? You mean special?

Hobbit home in LA
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LA has thousands of artistic unique homes and whole neighborhoods.
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extensive PT
For right now, just wait until 30/10 is completed then you wont have any excuses.

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San Diego adopted a 50/10 plan in honor of their inspiration from LA's 30/10.
With Los Angeles as Inspiration, San Diego Enviros Call for 50/10 Plan | Streetsblog Los Angeles
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nightlife that goes past 2am, etc.
People from all over the world come to LA for its nightlife when other cities in America not named NYC, Miami, or Las Vegas have that pull then you'll have reason to talk trash.
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There is little that LA has in common with any of the cities you listed.
LOL

Keep trying little NYC man.

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Old 06-02-2012, 04:33 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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drop new york city on top of SF and it would be the perfect metro and look similar to hong kong.

actually, just keep sf and the east bay there, then drop NYC on top of silicon valley.

I'd say these are the top 4 most interesting metros in the country though, w/o much thought.
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Old 06-02-2012, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Horrible Climate -- Uh, last time I checked California has everything from deserts to pine forests and mountains. If a climate somewhere else is 'horrible,' yet it's represented in California, does that not make Cali's climate 'horrible' too?
Nowhere in California is there a hot (90+ degrees) and humid (80%+) climate.
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Old 06-02-2012, 06:47 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Nice pics. LA is beautiful. But it would be much more appealing if it combined its beautiful natural setting and climate with world class urbanity. SF offers a better combination in that regard.
Doesn't Los Angeles have the most dense Urban area in the country?? And outside of Manhattan, NYC never really impressed me with this socalled "urbanity" seeing as how the city SPRAWLS into 3 states.

Again, it's asthetics. East Coast people seem to assume that if sunlight reaches the street then you're in a suburb. That's not the case, LA and San Francisco are the two most dense metros in the US saying LA isn't dense is stupid. I guess we are still stuck in the 1950's
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Old 06-02-2012, 07:17 PM
 
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LA , SF All day everyday.

Chicago dont really care for, nor their weather

New York city, great place..........to visit......
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Old 06-02-2012, 07:39 PM
 
Location: La Cañada
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I'd agree with you but...it's not 1947 anymore


I agree that New York and Chicago are very very similar in a lot of ways. While LA and SF couldn't be more different. I think LA + SF is better than NYC + CHI.

The Differences between SF and LA compliment each other when both cities are combined as one.

LA's size + SF's Density that would be real cool to see. (Actually scratch that, LA already has the most densly populated Urban area in the Country)

LA's beaches + SF's (well, Bay Area's) waves....UNREAL!!!

LA's Koreatown + SF's Chinatown...

The Turf war between West Hollywood and the Castro district

SF's COL + LA's COL .......Oh God.

The differences between LA and SF make things more interesting if they were one city....NYC + CHI on the otherhand...

New Yorks skyline + Chicago's Skyline...Um okay so...now there are a million skyscrapers and nobody on the street can tell the difference between Noon and 2am.

NYC transit + CHI transit Great, now there are 80,000 miles of Elevated Rail blocking what little sunlight that did manage to seep through the 10 Million skyscrapers.

I don't know, NYC and CHI's similarities don't seem to compliment each other the way LA and SF's differences seem to do.
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