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Hmm name calling is all you have Fitzrovian. I feel sorry for you. I cant help it that there are cemeteries in Colma but hey I picked Colma because its a nice suburban place with beautiful scenery and climate and easy access into the city by BART.
The highway splits the city, the habitable part (which is an extension of Daly City) is on one side and the cemeteries are on the other side.
Look Fitzrovian, I see yellow taxis!
You think dead people is something to laugh at? I don't.
So its one of those types of debates huh? Cemeteries don't bother me, they're on the other side of the highway but you know what would bother me? If I lived in a tundra like you, what a lifeless pit. The plants and trees become lifeless and you basically dress up in eskimo gear just to go out http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3231/5...769d11a5_z.jpg
My daughter has a picture of herself in NYC in this exact location. This picture is one of my favorites - it's beautiful!! Love the trees in this picture.
I agree that Chicago is an amazing city. I truly think that. I grew up in the suburbs, now live in LA, and I tell people that I think Chicago is still one of the best American cities for a short visit. However, its scenes like these less than 3 miles from the loop affects my view of Chicago. This is just how my perception is impacted. Others may not feel this way, and don't believe this takes away from their Chicago experience, however for me, its scenes like these this close to the loop, not seen in NYC, LA, or San Fran as far as I can tell, that makes me see Chicago away from the loop, Mag Mile, River North, Gold Coast as categorizing Chicago with its midwestern cousins.
Again, I'm seriously not trying to make Chicago look lame. It is a great city, but you have to understand that for some people, not all, that these scenes less than three miles from State and Madison, affect some peoples' perception of Chicago.
I agree that Chicago is an amazing city. I truly think that. I grew up in the suburbs, now live in LA, and I tell people that I think Chicago is still one of the best American cities for a short visit. However, its scenes like these less than 3 miles from the loop affects my view of Chicago. This is just how my perception is impacted. Others may not feel this way, and don't believe this takes away from their Chicago experience, however for me, its scenes like these this close to the loop, not seen in NYC, LA, or San Fran as far as I can tell, that makes me see Chicago away from the loop, Mag Mile, River North, Gold Coast as categorizing Chicago with its midwestern cousins.
Again, I'm seriously not trying to make Chicago look lame. It is a great city, but you have to understand that for some people, not all, that these scenes less than three miles from State and Madison, affect some peoples' perception of Chicago.
Pretty much all major cities have industrial areas.
I agree that Chicago is an amazing city. I truly think that. I grew up in the suburbs, now live in LA, and I tell people that I think Chicago is still one of the best American cities for a short visit. However, its scenes like these less than 3 miles from the loop affects my view of Chicago. This is just how my perception is impacted. Others may not feel this way, and don't believe this takes away from their Chicago experience, however for me, its scenes like these this close to the loop, not seen in NYC, LA, or San Fran as far as I can tell, that makes me see Chicago away from the loop, Mag Mile, River North, Gold Coast as categorizing Chicago with its midwestern cousins.
Again, I'm seriously not trying to make Chicago look lame. It is a great city, but you have to understand that for some people, not all, that these scenes less than three miles from State and Madison, affect some peoples' perception of Chicago.
It looks like you went looking for some bad area of Chicago pictures. Anyone can do the same with any city. So obvious.
It looks like you went looking for some bad area of Chicago pictures. Anyone can do the same with any city. So obvious.
Not really. These areas are in no way - bad neighborhoods at all. In fact they are very close to very high priced real estate, well except the one in Pilsen. But the city farm is virtually in the heart of the near north side. Thats not even a bad thing, it provides fresh vegetables and reusing land that former projects were on is a good thing.
I did not show areas on the far south and far north side. And one showed suburban condos of the south loop. All these areas are essentially right around the corner from hip places.
What I was pointing out, is that it becomes very un-Manhattan-like and very New Jersey-like very quickly. And for this reason, is why I don't put in the same category as New York.
I still believe Chicago is one of the best cities to visit, and you really get a lot for the cost of living.
Not really. These areas are in no way - bad neighborhoods at all. In fact they are very close to very high priced real estate, well except the one in Pilsen. But the city farm is virtually in the heart of the near north side. Thats not even a bad thing, it provides fresh vegetables and reusing land that former projects were on is a good thing.
I did not show areas on the far south and far north side. And one showed suburban condos of the south loop. All these areas are essentially right around the corner from hip places.
What I was pointing out, is that it becomes very un-Manhattan-like and very New Jersey-like very quickly. And for this reason, is why I don't put in the same category as New York.
I still believe Chicago is one of the best cities to visit, and you really get a lot for the cost of living.
But Chicago's bad areas (As in truly depopulated and bombed out) makes up less than 15% of the city (englewood mostly). You literally have to go looking for them. This is the same for most places (insert major city name, insert state name, USA), including Los Angeles.
This is different frorm a city like, say, Detroit, where 2/3 of the city are literally bombed out and depopulated, and you can exit practically any direction out of downtown and run into these areas without trying.
You'll be hard pressed to find a block like this in any other city (where NO ONe lives on it or even around it).
But Chicago's bad areas (As in truly depopulated and bombed out) makes up less than 15% of the city (englewood mostly). You literally have to go looking for them. This is the same for most places (insert major city name, insert state name, USA), including Los Angeles.
This is different frorm a city like, say, Detroit, where 2/3 of the city are literally bombed out and depopulated, and you can exit practically any direction out of downtown and run into these areas without trying.
You'll be hard pressed to find a block like this in any other city (where NO ONe lives on it or even around it).
LA, or any other sunbelt city really doesn't have any areas that are bombed out and depopulated. They maybe really bad, high crime, poverty, gangs, drugs, etc. but you really only have depopulated areas in northeast and midwest cities. Not even the worst parts of New York are really depopulated. Only ones that have clearly lost people since the 1950 census do you have depopulated areas. Sunbelt cities are too new and have experienced enough immigration that really don't have areas where buildings used to stand. Of course you have open spaces that never were built however.
Chicagos most similar city in terms of bombed out and depopulated would be Philly. Even though Chicago is bigger with a more spectacular downtown.
Look up Watts, Compton, or any other infamous LA ghetto on google maps and you really won't see a single vacant lot.
LA, or any other sunbelt city really doesn't have any areas that are bombed out and depopulated. They maybe really bad, high crime, poverty, gangs, drugs, etc. but you really only have depopulated areas in northeast and midwest cities. Not even the worst parts of New York are really depopulated. Only ones that have clearly lost people since the 1950 census do you have depopulated areas. Sunbelt cities are too new and have experienced enough immigration that really don't have areas where buildings used to stand. Of course you have open spaces that never were built however.
Chicagos most similar city in terms of bombed out and depopulated would be Philly. Even though Chicago is bigger with a more spectacular downtown.
Look up Watts, Compton, or any other infamous LA ghetto on google maps and you really won't see a single vacant lot.
I don't feel inclined to spend the time doing that. Maybe I don't feel as strong a need to bash LA, as some do, to bash Chicago. I can't believe people spend time searching Google maps to find a bad area, with the hope to share these pictures, to bash a city. I think that's telling, but whatever trips your trigger.
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