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Why would Idaho be part of the Pacific NW? Phoenix is closer to the ocean than Boise, is it part of the Pacific SW? There's the NW(Montana included) and the PNW (Oregon, Washington).
As far as whats Deep South, East TX and the FL panhandle are about as Deep South as you can get.
Pacific is often used loosely for the region, but more commonly Northwest is used, or sometimes you will see it broken down to be Pacific Northwest for the coastal areas and Inland Northwest for eastern OR, WA and all of Idaho.
Idaho is included as part of the Northwest because the mountains in Idaho, from the north to the south of the state, feed the rivers that begin on the western side of the Continental Divide (which accounts for a lot of Idaho's eastern state line), through all of Idaho and into the Snake and Columbia river systems. Salmon spawn in the wilderness of Idaho, swim to the Pacific Ocean and then come back home to Idaho to die. That alone ties the region together imo. It is amazing and sacred to see a huge Idaho born salmon that swam back from the Pacific Ocean dodging whitewater rapids on one of Idaho's many rivers looking for their home so that they die. Redfish Lake in the Sawtooth Mountains of Idaho gets its name from the red salmon.
There is a inland seaport town in North/Central Idaho named Lewiston in which ocean barges actually utilize the Columbia River and on to the Snake River and ship goods to and from the Port of Lewiston. This is the furthers inland seaport in the USA, all tied together with Portland and the ocean by water.
Why would Idaho be part of the Pacific NW? Phoenix is closer to the ocean than Boise, is it part of the Pacific SW? There's the NW(Montana included) and the PNW (Oregon, Washington).
As far as whats Deep South, East TX and the FL panhandle are about as Deep South as you can get.
Idaho panhandle is part of the PNW. As someone else already stated the PNW depending on who you talk to stretches from Southern Oregon up into British Columbia and even SE Alaska, and as far east as western Montana.
PNW is not just defined by its culture, it is defined by its geography, shared history, aboriginal history, biomass, and geology. Even before white settlers came the people stretching from the panhandle of Alaska down to Oregon shared a pretty common culture.
Why would Idaho be part of the Pacific NW? Phoenix is closer to the ocean than Boise, is it part of the Pacific SW? There's the NW(Montana included) and the PNW (Oregon, Washington).
As far as whats Deep South, East TX and the FL panhandle are about as Deep South as you can get.
It's already been established that the OP's definitions of each region aren't official, but just his/her interpretation.
Neither of these are typically considered to be the Deep South, though; certainly no part of Virginia.
I know, but culturally they are. Memphis is considered to be something of a capital of the Mississippi Delta region and you don't get much more "Deep South" than that. Eastern NC and Tidewater VA share the characteristics of being agricultural regions with extensive rural areas populated by Blacks, although that's changed a bit for Tidewater VA.
I know, but culturally they are. Memphis is considered to be something of a capital of the Mississippi Delta region and you don't get much more "Deep South" than that. Eastern NC and Tidewater VA share the characteristics of being agricultural regions with extensive rural areas populated by Blacks, although that's changed a bit for Tidewater VA.
Um, nevermind. I don't want to hi-jack the thread with this discussion.
Economy: Deep South easily.
History: How does one rank history? Did one place exist before the other?
Natural scenery: Tie I prefer the Pacific NW but the Deep South has more variety
Urbanness: PacNW
Education: Deep South pretty easily
Museums: Um.... tie? I guess maybe Seattle helps PacNW win but if we say Fine Arts in general (Concert Halls/Galleries/etc) its a tie.
Public transportation: Pac NW
Weather: Deep South
Food: Deep South
Proximity to other regions: Tie
Overall for me I'd rather live in Pac NW than Deep South but not for any of the reasons above. Deep South by all means should win this if people are honest, of course this is C-D so Seattle will single handedly win because its seen as more perrty.
I disagree with alot of your notions.
History: Would give it to the South though the PNW has a Strong Native American History and Lewis and Clark
Natural Scenery: PNW, From Untouched Pacific coastline, Majestic Olmpic Mountains, Beautiful islands on the sound, Rolling hills of the palouse, Canyons and of the Inland northwest, Peaceful flowing rivers cutting through the land, I would say the PNW has way more variety.
Urbaness: Outside of Atlanta, the South isn't that urban while Seattle, Portland, and Vancouver could be argued as more Urban they Atlanta
Education: Public education is cities? PNW, But Higher Education? Toss up. PNW has great Liberal Arts institutions, and great state schools but the south was more variety and a few very good schools. I would lean towards pacific northwest though
Museums: Seattle Area has a few world class museums but I can't talk for Portland and Vancouver. Atlanta has some really good museums with with more Historical relevance the the PNW
Public Transportation: PNW Takes this
Weather: Pick your poison, Mild Winters but extremely hot summers? Or cooler (Not Cold) winter and fall but extremely nice summers in the PNW. Matter of opinion
Food: PNW has some of the Best Seafood is the world but the south has a strong comfort food and BBQ culture. So again, matter of opinion
Proximity to other regions: This is interesting to me, The South has Proximity the the Carribean and Eastern Seaboard. But the the PNW is Closer the California, Alaska, Short plane ride to Hawaii, and is a gateway the Asia. To me the PNW is that Isolated and I actually prefer being in area that isn't connected to alot of cities. Makes traveling feel like an Adventure!
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