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View Poll Results: Select the most accurate description for each city:
Cincinatti is urban 31 54.39%
Cincinatti is semi-urban 16 28.07%
St. Louis is urban 34 59.65%
Stl. Louis is semi-urban 15 26.32%
Portland, Oregon is urban 21 36.84%
Portland, Oregon is semi-urban 30 52.63%
Atlanta is urban 14 24.56%
Atlanta is semi-urban 38 66.67%
San Diego is urban 12 21.05%
San Diego is semi-urban 37 64.91%
New Orleans is urban 33 57.89%
New Orleans is semi-urban 16 28.07%
Miami is urban 29 50.88%
Miami is semi-urban 20 35.09%
Phoenix is urban 5 8.77%
Phoenix is semi-urban 44 77.19%
Denver is urban 16 28.07%
Denver is semi-urban 32 56.14%
Houston is urban 10 17.54%
Houston is semi-urban 39 68.42%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 57. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-20-2012, 12:04 PM
 
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urban means of the city. All of these provide centers of commerce so you are right, all of these have urban sections.

I don't know what semi-urban means.
Yeah, I'm not sure what semi-urban is referring to either... Is that a mix of urban/suburban development? Like high-rises and denser developement along a commercial strip surrounded by much lower density housing or rural areas? All of the cities on the list are urban in their central areas--some might have land further out or on the outskirts that qualifies as suburban or rural--on the other hand all of them have neighborhoods within their boundaries that are somewhat denser or were streetcar suburbs at some point.

I mean the word "urban" itself is missused on this forum enough--people assume urban always has means very high density or old tenements and brownstones sometimes--like New York is basically the benchmark for everything urban and how urban some place is determined by how far down the scale it falls from that. On the other hand the Census Bureau defines urban as 1,000 ppm or an urbanized area as 50,000 people or more--hardly the definition you find on CityData.
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Old 07-20-2012, 12:04 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Cincy, New Orleans, and St. Louis are no brainers.
I was kind of using these for "control" purposes.
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Old 07-20-2012, 12:13 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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I assume it meant low-density areas that wouldn't be too out of place in most people's image of suburbia.
That leads me to say two obvious things:

-That describes every city in this country in one way or another.
-Only Hoboken is exempt from this. Why? Because they're AWESOME.
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Old 07-20-2012, 04:36 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I knew one of these cities had to be close in perception.

Looks like it's Miami.
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Old 07-20-2012, 06:02 PM
 
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I knew one of these cities had to be close in perception.

Looks like it's Miami.
Pretty much.
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Old 07-21-2012, 05:09 AM
 
Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA
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West of the river (MSA 2) vs East of the river (MSA 1) sprawl
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...itydiagram.jpg


I like west better because its all one footprint, the east has to many holes in it the exception is Chicago which sprawls similarly to the west.
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Old 07-21-2012, 09:05 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Generally, western US cities like Phoenix, Houston, and San Diego, apart from their downtown areas, just look like suburbs to me. Denver might be an exception. It has at least a couple of of fairly dense urban looking sections. I haven't been to Portland but from pictures it looks mostly suburban. The real urban cities on the list are Cincy, St. Louis, and NOLA.
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Old 07-21-2012, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Shaw.
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I'm not really sure what semi-urban is. I mean, this is Philadelphia. This is New York City. All cities have dense and less-dense areas.
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Old 07-21-2012, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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I'm not really sure what semi-urban is. I mean, this is Philadelphia. This is New York City. All cities have dense and less-dense areas.
My question exactly.
If you live in an area with jobs, restaurants, entertainment, buses, etc etc you live in a city.
If you live near a city in an area with less jobs, food and restaurants then you live in the suburbs.

If you live in an area where jobs is basically farming, there is barely any food or grocery options for miles and miles, then you live in a rural area.

I don't know why so many people are so thick headed they make things dependent on look. Urban means city. Cities are gonna look different
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Old 07-21-2012, 03:54 PM
 
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All of these places are semi-urban, IMO
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