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View Poll Results: Worst Climate
Chicago 12 4.30%
Boston 4 1.43%
Minneapolis 52 18.64%
Seattle 17 6.09%
Miami 27 9.68%
Houston 82 29.39%
Buffalo 78 27.96%
Denver 7 2.51%
Voters: 279. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-12-2024, 05:10 PM
 
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Warm weather: 106 votes
Colder weather: 166 votes

I agree, the choices from each should be more even.

I think it would be more insightful if the choices were more like:

Buffalo, New York
Burlington, Vermont
Fargo, North Dakota
Eugene, Oregon
McAllen, Texas
Las Cruces, New Mexico
Gulfport, Mississippi
Gainesville, Florida

Houston is huge. Largest city by far in a humid Gulf belt, so it's reputation precedes it. It's a safe bet to chose for those hating hotter areas, especially when there are just two hot areas to choose from

Splitting the choices evenly, and picking smaller to midsized areas lessens the bias.
Gulfport, weather is identical to Houston's, but because it is smaller and less known, I definitely doubt it would be picked as often as Houston's.
I think OP's know that. They know what the outcome of the poll is going to be based on how the poll is stacked. It's like asking, what is going to be the summer blockbuster, and include a choice from a major studio and the rest from smaller, more obscure studios. A smaller studio may yield the surprise blockbuster, but the poll results would most likely show the major studio far ahead of the pack.
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Old 05-12-2024, 05:52 PM
 
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With the acceleration of climate change obviously occurring, I wonder if places like Miami and Houston are even going to be places people want to be in during the summer within a few decades. It's already getting too hot to even be at the beach, and people in these places do not hang out outside in the summer for long periods as it is. It's just hopping from one air-conditioned place to another, so I am dubious that people there actually enjoy the heat as much as they claim. At least winters in the north are getting milder over time. With higher risk of flooding, sea level rise and hurricanes (and all the massive increases in insurance rates), coastal areas are not going to have a great time of it moving forwards. I'd much rather be in a place like Minneapolis long-term at the rate things are going.
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Old 05-12-2024, 06:05 PM
 
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With the acceleration of climate change obviously occurring, I wonder if places like Miami and Houston are even going to be places people want to be in during the summer within a few decades. It's already getting too hot to even be at the beach, and people in these places do not hang out outside in the summer for long periods as it is. It's just hopping from one air-conditioned place to another, so I am dubious that people there actually enjoy the heat as much as they claim. At least winters in the north are getting milder over time. With higher risk of flooding, sea level rise and hurricanes (and all the massive increases in insurance rates), coastal areas are not going to have a great time of it moving forwards. I'd much rather be in a place like Minneapolis long-term at the rate things are going.
It won’t matter. People live in much hotter places near the equator. Humans have an amazing ability to adapt. Plus housing is much cheaper in many of these warm states like Texas and Florida.
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Old 05-12-2024, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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^ If you are going to exclude Houston because it’s large and has a reputation, then you should also exclude Buffalo because of its reputation, and that it is up to 6x larger than a couple of those other places on the new list.

The Buffalo metro area contains microclimates, but the reputation of the city is usually driven by the worst events, which typically only affect small portions of the area.

The Buffalo area has warmer winters and cooler summers than nearly every city in the Midwest and Great Lakes. The northern half of the metro also sees significantly less snow than the southern half, and in amounts no greater than any other Major Great Lakes cities. The metro area also has the sunniest and driest summers in the Northeast due to the cooler lake waters preventing cloud formation, in addition to moderating air temperature.
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Old 05-12-2024, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Worst climate with largest population growth. Houston wins…. Hmmm

Perhaps climate is overrated or people only take into account the extremes? (Voters of this poll, that is)
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Old 05-12-2024, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Warm weather: 106 votes
Colder weather: 166 votes

I agree, the choices from each should be more even.

I think it would be more insightful if the choices were more like:

Buffalo, New York
Burlington, Vermont
Fargo, North Dakota
Eugene, Oregon
McAllen, Texas
Las Cruces, New Mexico
Gulfport, Mississippi
Gainesville, Florida

Houston is huge. Largest city by far in a humid Gulf belt, so it's reputation precedes it. It's a safe bet to chose for those hating hotter areas, especially when there are just two hot areas to choose from

Splitting the choices evenly, and picking smaller to midsized areas lessens the bias.
Gulfport, weather is identical to Houston's, but because it is smaller and less known, I definitely doubt it would be picked as often as Houston's.
I think OP's know that. They know what the outcome of the poll is going to be based on how the poll is stacked. It's like asking, what is going to be the summer blockbuster, and include a choice from a major studio and the rest from smaller, more obscure studios. A smaller studio may yield the surprise blockbuster, but the poll results would most likely show the major studio far ahead of the pack.
Actually, you could have made the choices more even while sticking to large metro areas.

San Diego, Los Angeles, Phoenix, El Paso, Dallas, New Orleans*, Charlotte and Atlanta could have all been included in this poll.

*Now there's a swamp for you.
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Old 05-12-2024, 08:15 PM
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Location: Houston, TX/Detroit, MI
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Worst climate with largest population growth. Houston wins…. Hmmm

Perhaps climate is overrated or people only take into account the extremes? (Voters of this poll, that is)
You have to remember this is City Data. Many won't vote for a city they like for anything negative regardless of what the topic is. See the results for Chicago on this thread.
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Old 05-12-2024, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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You have to remember this is City Data. Many won't vote for a city they like for anything negative regardless of what the topic is. See the results for Chicago on this thread.
But also see the results for Minneapolis, a city that people here generally like.

I think that one of the reasons it isn't getting as many votes as Buffalo is: Buffalo gets lake effect snow, while none of Minnesota's 10,000 lakes are big enough to produce that effect, fortunately for Minneapolis.
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Old 05-12-2024, 10:26 PM
 
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You have to remember this is City Data. Many won't vote for a city they like for anything negative regardless of what the topic is. See the results for Chicago on this thread.
Chicago’s climate though really is not the worst on this list.. It’s more of a balanced climate.
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Old Yesterday, 05:49 AM
 
Location: OC
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You have to remember this is City Data. Many won't vote for a city they like for anything negative regardless of what the topic is. See the results for Chicago on this thread.
Or people think Buffalo is worse? Or people hate humidity
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