2019 Urban Area estimates... (better, compared, place, bigger)
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New York 18,680,025 (+1.79)
Los Angeles 12,531,334 (+3.13)
Chicago 8,586,888 (-.25)
Miami 6,076,316 (+10.43)
Dallas-Fort Worth 5,910,669 (+15.4)
Houston 5,724,418 (+15.78)
Philadelphia 5,540,199 (+1.82)
Atlanta 5,151,496 (+14.09)
Washington 5,066,973 (+10.47)
Boston 4,465,966 (+6.82)
Phoenix 4,187,723 (+15.39)
Detroit 3,731,486 (-.07)
San Francisco-Oakland 3,557,982 (+8.43)
Seattle 3,530,752 (+15.41)
San Diego 3,178,495 (+7.5)
Minneapolis-St Paul 2,885,614 (+8.85)
Tampa-St Petersburg 2,771,700 (+13.52)
Denver 2,709,398 (+14.12)
Baltimore 2,270,087 (+3.01)
Las Vegas 2,165,405 (+14.81)
St Louis 2,144,317 (-.3)
Riverside-San Bernardino 2,112,239 (+9.29)
Portland 2,072,553 (+12.04)
San Antonio 2,036,324 (+15.82)
Sacramento 1,882,358 (+9.21)
San Jose 1,797,166 (+7.97)
Orlando 1,792,047 (+18.64)
Cleveland 1,742,437 (-2.15)
Pittsburgh 1,719,289 (-.84)
Austin 1,685,522 (+23.72)
Cincinnati 1,684,800 (+3.69)
Indianapolis 1,636,763 (+10.04)
Kansas City 1,602,005 (+5.44)
Columbus 1,547,862 (+13.14)
Charlotte 1,526,465 (+22.17)
Virginia Beach-Norfolk 1,475,522 (+2.49)
Milwaukee 1,390,046 (+.99)
Providence 1,204,385 (+1.13)
Jacksonville 1,165,107 (+9.38)
Salt Lake City 1,135,747 (+11.21)
Nashville 1,081,876 (+11.58)
Raleigh 1,073,795 (+21.35)
Memphis 1,072,330 (+1.16)
Richmond 1,025,117 (+7.5)
Louisville 1,004,821 (+3.32)
Lotta takeaways from this but I'm at work so limited on time right now. Have to point out one thing:
Every relevant measuring stick is illustrating that Birmingham has been left behind by former peers over the past decade: UA, MSA, GDP, all of them. We are to a point where its time to address that, while a decade ago Bham was more or less equal to a number of cities, the past decade has relegated Bham to now being a level behind those former peers, and its thru no fault of Bham's, which has undergone its own renaissance of sorts. Former peers have just urbanized faster, built more, added more, and risen further on a regional abd even national consciousness...
This is something I pointed out a few years back, as I went back to Bham in 2016 to see a mentor who has since passed, and in my minds eye compared to familiar cities of similar stature; I've also paid close attention to the annual releases of population and economies and at least on a basic level, familiarized myself with trends in these cities and the rate of acceleration in all...
Birmingham has itself i think risen from where it was 10+ years ago, but its new peers of similar stature are not the ones, for the 'most' part, that it was on even ground with in 2010. Everything has pointed to it for awhile and next month's BEA GDP release will be yet another indication of that fact...
Eager to hear everyone else's feedback on the 2019 estimates!
I'm sure there are others that jump out to people, but Providence really stands out to me as inaccurate. Realistically, it's closer to New Haven or Rochester than it is to Milwaukee or Nashville. It's likely bolstered by the inclusion of several sizable independent and semi-independent cities in the Providence metro area. For example, New Bedford, Fall River, Taunton, Attleboro, Newport, Woonsocket, etc. It's very decentralized and doesn't feel close to many of its peers on this list in terms of size.
Don't get me wrong, I still think Urban Area is a better indicator of city size than MSA, but I think Providence is an exception.
I'm sure there are others that jump out to people, but Providence really stands out to me as inaccurate. Realistically, it's closer to New Haven or Rochester than it is to Milwaukee or Nashville. It's likely bolstered by the inclusion of several sizable independent and semi-independent cities in the Providence metro area. For example, New Bedford, Fall River, Taunton, Attleboro, Newport, Woonsocket, etc. It's very decentralized and doesn't feel close to many of its peers on this list in terms of size.
Don't get me wrong, I still think Urban Area is a better indicator of city size than MSA, but I think Providence is an exception.
I've heard that mentioned several times over the years on here by New Englanders, that Pvd is smaller than its population groupings illustrate. I recall a specific thread from maybe a half-decade ago, on Northeast city hierarchy, where people had Pvd in that middle area between Buffalo and Rochester...
I do appreciate UA as probably the strongest indicator of city size and tiering too, though...
I'm sure there are others that jump out to people, but Providence really stands out to me as inaccurate. Realistically, it's closer to New Haven or Rochester than it is to Milwaukee or Nashville. It's likely bolstered by the inclusion of several sizable independent and semi-independent cities in the Providence metro area. For example, New Bedford, Fall River, Taunton, Attleboro, Newport, Woonsocket, etc. It's very decentralized and doesn't feel close to many of its peers on this list in terms of size.
Don't get me wrong, I still think Urban Area is a better indicator of city size than MSA, but I think Providence is an exception.
Providence is in one of those "congested" urbanized parts of the country. It blends in with Boston's UA, and Immediately adjacent to New Bedford. I agree it's a good example of where the statistical formula doesn't accurately calculate the area. IMO if urbanized area's immediately border each other and are only separated by a statistical line, they should be merged and considered one urban cluster(ie the Bay Area, LA etc).
I'm sure there are others that jump out to people, but Providence really stands out to me as inaccurate. Realistically, it's closer to New Haven or Rochester than it is to Milwaukee or Nashville. It's likely bolstered by the inclusion of several sizable independent and semi-independent cities in the Providence metro area. For example, New Bedford, Fall River, Taunton, Attleboro, Newport, Woonsocket, etc. It's very decentralized and doesn't feel close to many of its peers on this list in terms of size.
Don't get me wrong, I still think Urban Area is a better indicator of city size than MSA, but I think Providence is an exception.
VB/Nfk is another exception, not just with UA but every other measure. Its functionally a smaller city in every conceivable way than Richmond, and is viewed as the "second city" by almost all Virginians. The dynamic of Hampton Roads is one of two separate metros (the Williamsburg/Newport News/Hampton Peninsula, and the Virginia Beach/Norfolk/Chesapeake Southside) that fused together over time but represent separate feeling areas...
Providence is in one of those "congested" urbanized parts of the country. It blends in with Boston's UA, and Immediately adjacent to New Bedford. I agree it's a good example of where the statistical formula doesn't accurately calculate the area. IMO if urbanized area's immediately border each other and are only separated by a statistical line, they should be merged and considered one urban cluster(ie the Bay Area, LA etc).
I dont disagree with this but there are a lot of them that fit that mold. Charlotte is bordered by three smaller UAs of roughly ~540k that would more accurately place Clt at a ~2.065 UA count that I feel like is more indicative of Clt's size and where it should compare as a city...
^ A lot, if not all of these Urban Areas may actually be bigger, if adjacent urban clusters were added. Here is a list of the Urban Areas and Urban Clusters from 2010: https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...he-2010-census
i dont disagree with this but there are a lot of them that fit that mold. Charlotte is bordered by three smaller uas of roughly ~540k that would more accurately place clt at a ~2.065 ua count that i feel like is more indicative of clt's size and where it should compare as a city...
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