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View Poll Results: Will Houston surpass Chicago as the 3rd largest city by 2020?
Yes 497 41.49%
No 701 58.51%
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Old 04-11-2011, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Then the city should challenge it if they think so. Looks like Chicago leaders aren't, so they must believe the numbers are accurate. For Houston, entire apartment complexes were missed and the Census said no one lived on those tracts of land, which obviously people did.
Chicago leaders suck.

Do you not read the news?
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Old 04-11-2011, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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Chicago leaders suck.

Do you not read the news?
all politicians suck
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Old 04-11-2011, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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all politicians suck
riiiight
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Old 04-11-2011, 10:22 AM
 
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Pretty sure chicagos bad neighborhoods are "scarier" then those.

We had a lot of miscount too.
I was going to say, many areas on Chicago's south and west sides saw transit usage increase, school enrollment stay the same, households receiving mail stay the same..........and then those areas counted 20% to 30% less people than in 2010. Their mailed return rate was in the 30%'s.

That certainly happened in my other cities too, but I don't think Chicago needs to be as scared about a 200K drop in population when everything points to a large undercount. The central area around downtown counted over 50,000 new people, with the north side, northwest side and southwest sides being fairly stable. It was the areas on the south and west sides that came back with counts vastly lower than in 2000.
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Old 04-11-2011, 11:17 AM
 
Location: NE Houston Texas
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Pretty sure chicagos bad neighborhoods are "scarier" then those.

We had a lot of miscount too.
this is the stupidest thing ive ever heard.

okay dude...you win. Chicago's Ghettos are "Scarier"

i never said that it didn't happen in Chicago. But the city of Houston has evidence that a massive undercount happened. therefor they are challenging them, on top of that...their was some confusion on city boundaries.

Houston is saying as many as 160,000 people were missed.
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Old 04-11-2011, 11:29 AM
 
Location: The City
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this is the stupidest thing ive ever heard.

okay dude...you win. Chicago's Ghettos are "Scarier"

i never said that it didn't happen in Chicago. But the city of Houston has evidence that a massive undercount happened. therefor they are challenging them, on top of that...their was some confusion on city boundaries.

Houston is saying as many as 160,000 people were missed.

Well when the inner loop gets close to Chicago in population this thread may have relevance; that is the only real area of Houston that even comes close to being a city for comparison to Chicago

I believe it will e somewhere around 1.8. million people short even if Houston wins the challenge
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Old 04-11-2011, 11:38 AM
 
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Well when the inner loop gets close to Chicago in population this thread may have relevance; that is the only real area of Houston that even comes close to being a city for comparison to Chicago

I believe it will e somewhere around 1.8. million people short even if Houston wins the challenge
you and that nonsense again? grow up

The urban part of the inner loop is only about 25 square miles.
Downtown, the Heights and Montrose are what people think of when they say the inner loop is urban. But those areas amount to less than 25sq miles of the 90 sq mile loop
It is the area in blue and the box right below it


The rest of that thing is empty. Chicago is that size plus 200 sq miles.

And stop taking about relevance when your city is losing on that front decade.
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Old 04-11-2011, 11:51 AM
 
Location: NE Houston Texas
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Well when the inner loop gets close to Chicago in population this thread may have relevance; that is the only real area of Houston that even comes close to being a city for comparison to Chicago

I believe it will e somewhere around 1.8. million people short even if Houston wins the challenge
Have you been to Houston? because that certainly isn't the case. ive seen you say this before, and its just absolutely false.

is the area outside the loop more suburban?in some areas yes. is it as dense? no. However due to these zoning laws, areas outside the loop are still very much "city". Uptown for example...is outside the loop.

outside the loop really is no more suburban then some would consider the majority of Queens.

now outside the Beltway about 5 miles, then you start getting really suburban, and the vast majority of that isn't houston. But even then, their are areas outside of the beltway that are very urban in comparison to the rest. 1960 west of 45 to about 249 is probably a great example...granted its very dense concentration of strip malls which most think of as "suburbia"...but thats just the way we do things down here...even inside the loop.

You have a skewed perception of Houston as being a very spread out city in the sense that outside the loop is suburban neighborhood after suburban neighborhood. Like i said, inside the beltway is a more spread out version of the loop. Nothing suburban about it...IMO. Maybe in the 1940's when the majority of those communities were built...but that just isn't the case anymore
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Old 04-11-2011, 11:55 AM
 
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They think of this:















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You can't compare all of the inner loop as one unit because the area varies greatly.
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Old 04-11-2011, 11:56 AM
 
Location: NE Houston Texas
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you and that nonsense again? grow up

The urban part of the inner loop is only about 25 square miles.
Downtown, the Heights and Montrose are what people think of when they say the inner loop is urban. But those areas amount to less than 25sq miles of the 90 sq mile loop
It is the area in blue and the box right below it


The rest of that thing is empty. Chicago is that size plus 200 sq miles.

And stop taking about relevance when your city is losing on that front decade.
im trying to get a really good grip on what people consider urban. I mean, we are a sunbelt city....we are built out differently then the rest of the country in terms of city planning.
is what is considered suburban? a house with a roof, sitting on at-least 3000sq ft of property?
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