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The triad isn't a metro, it's 3 metros. Why do you insist on putting Pennsylvania cities on an island while lumping 3 NC cities together?
To be fair, it is a CSA and used to be one MSA before the last Census revisions. It's best thought of as a multinodal metro region with three principal cities, with Winston-Salem being one of them.
I don't believe this is what the OP had in mind when he started this thread...
I'm the OP, and while proximity to other cities can be a factor in one's choice, I'd like the overall picture to be considered also. As of now, I've heard very little about how the two compare in terms of schools, downtowns, local economies, etc.
You could have included Lehigh and Berks and it'd still be smaller than the Piedmont Triad by a bit and add another 760k people and add 2 more principal cities.
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I'm the OP, and while proximity to other cities can be a factor in one's choice, I'd like the overall picture to be considered also. As of now, I've heard very little about how the two compare in terms of schools, downtowns, local economies, etc.
Harrisburg is uncharacterlistically sprawly for a Northeast city. There is a nice bar and restaurant district downtown, but any noteable shopping is on the outskirts/in the suburbs. There is Strawberry Square, but it's nothing to write home about. The last time I was in there was in 07, and probably 25-50% of the storefronts were available for lease.
Harrisburg, the city, is pretty poor, but the suburbs are right in line with the national averages as far as income.
Harrisburg's only major university is Dixon, right? Temple and Widener are relatively small compared to Wake Forest and Forsyth Tech.
Temple is in Philadelphia, Widener is in Chester (very close to Philadelphia). The problem is, Harrisburg gets a lot of satellite campuses for other Pennsylvania universities. Why they lack universities headquartered in Harrisburg, I don't know. I guess part of the trouble could be that there are so many large universities in SEPA that universities in SCPA might have a hard time being competitive? Not sure, just tossing it out there.
You could have included Lehigh and Berks and it'd still be smaller than the Piedmont Triad by a bit and add another 760k people and add 2 more principal cities.
Harrisburg is uncharacterlistically sprawly for a Northeast city. There is a nice bar and restaurant district downtown, but any noteable shopping is on the outskirts/in the suburbs. There is Strawberry Square, but it's nothing to write home about. The last time I was in there was in 07, and probably 25-50% of the storefronts were available for lease.
Harrisburg, the city, is pretty poor, but the suburbs are right in line with the national averages as far as income.
Keep in mind that Harrisburg is small in relation to the metro area in terms of population(about 50,000) and land size(8.1 square miles). Dauphin County has around 268,000 people and is 525 square miles of land. So, if it was like Winston-Salem in land size, they might be close in population in terms of city limits.
Harrisburg is every conceivable way. And concerning the Greensboro factor... while not a CSA... Harrisburg has similar access to a constellation of cities in Lancaster (500k), York (400k), Reading (400k) and Lebanon (120k). It's a much more populated area than the Triad (1.6M with the inclusion of Burlington MSA and some nearby micropolitans).
In a similar geographic area... this multi-nodal region surrounding Harrisburg is more populous:
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