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View Poll Results: Which city on the West Coast has the strongest Black presence
Los Angeles 83 24.78%
Oakland 220 65.67%
Seattle 6 1.79%
Phoenix 4 1.19%
Las Vegas 7 2.09%
Sacramento 2 0.60%
Richmond, CA 5 1.49%
Vallejo 5 1.49%
Riverside 1 0.30%
San Diego 2 0.60%
Voters: 335. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-10-2020, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Redondo Beach
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Horribly dishonest posting...

There isn't a single majority black neighborhood in the city of Oakland, which is smaller than South Central Los Angeles, but South LA has more blacks as an actual number and a percentage of its population, and South LA still has 8-10 majority black neighborhoods...

To compare the scale of Black Oakland to New Orleans is embarrassing...

The only reason anybody would say tiny Oakland is even mentionable to Black LA is if they're working from misinformed stereotypes and agendas. There is nothing to validate that Oakland has the more pronounced black culture and at the very most you could only say Oakland comes close to running equal to LA...

But in actuality they aren't in the same league, knock it off...
Dishonest post?? You better look it up. LA has a black neighborhood but its not a black city. Maybe it's too big for it's own good when it comes to that. Also I'm referring to when Oakland was much more so predominantly black than today. It's being gentrified now but it once stood at 47pct black now its 28pct black but still black majority. You're dividing a bigger city and choosing sections to give it a black major city title but no. Compton can say it was a black city because it was predominantly black but LA can never say that and Compton isnt a major city which is why it wasnt mentioned on what I read
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Old 03-10-2020, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Redondo Beach
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These polls are sometimes way off but this one is accurate when it comes to who's winning
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Old 03-10-2020, 08:24 PM
 
Location: North Raleigh x North Sacramento
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Dishonest post?? You better look it up. LA has a black neighborhood but its not a black city. Maybe it's too big for it's own good when it comes to that. Also I'm referring to when Oakland was much more so predominantly black than today. It's being gentrified now but it once stood at 47pct black now its 28pct black but still black majority. You're dividing a bigger city and choosing sections to give it a black major city title but no. Compton can say it was a black city because it was predominantly black but LA can never say that and Compton isnt a major city which is why it wasnt mentioned on what I read
Wow, you're bad...

First of all, as stated earlier there is more than one black neighborhood in South Central. Oakland has ZERO majority black neighborhoods anywhere in the entire city...

You cant compare LA to Oakland straight up because LA is 10 times larger. Both the city of Oakland and South Central Los Angeles are the black epicenters of their region, and similar in geographical size (Oakland is 55.9 sq miles, South LA is 51 sq miles). So off the basis of these things alone, they are comparable...

FYI, Oakland is below 23% black now while South Central is still 28% black, and given the population of South Central is about 90% larger than the entire city of Oakland, there is about 130,000 more black people in South Central alone than the entire city of Oakland...

http://censusreporter.org/profiles/1...00-oakland-ca/

Again, the city of Oakland and South LA are almost identical in geography. For what it's worth, Oakland's black population is down 10.82% from the 2010 Census, as of 2018, while LA's black population is down 8.7% over the same time period....the 2010s saw a slowdown in the decrease of Black Angelenos compared to the previous three decades, while the entire Bay Area is losing blacks at high and near-high rates...

So, Oakland city is only half the size of South Central, with only 45% of the actual number of black people, in the same geographic area, with a lesser percentage of its population being black, and is losing blacks at a faster rate than LA......but Oakland has the stronger black culture?

You gonna have to do a better job of explaining how this works lol, because your analysis so far has been trash. I haven't even gone into the cultural impact both communities have had on their respective cities, or talked about peripheral areas that contribute to the black energy of the region, because then the gap becomes wider...

This poll is inaccurate, keep in mind we're on a predominantly white site where most people would no nothing of black history in either city; of the black contributors on here most of them wouldnt have more than a baseline knowledge of black history in either city; and the very nature of this nerdy analytic website forces people to "vote" on data at face value rather than contextualizing and comprehending exactly what they're looking at---->so people see Oakland 23% black, Los Angeles 8% black, case closed...

You can't go to either city and honestly think Oakland is "blacker", the issue is most people here don't go to Black LA when they visit LA...
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Old 03-10-2020, 08:37 PM
 
Location: North Raleigh x North Sacramento
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Los Angeles is still the black capital west of Texas. 8.6% of Black America still lives west if Texas, and the overall gravitas and appeal of Los Angeles to Black Americans is still there---->sure, not to the extent it was 20 years plus ago, as LA has been surpassed by DFW and Houston as black capitals, but LA will remain a prominent center of black culture so long as it is still that center of the black West, which isn't changing anytime in the foreseeable future...

Vegas' black culture has really blossomed this century but the place that is threatening is the Bay Area, not LA, as the #2 market for blacks out west...
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Old 03-10-2020, 09:04 PM
 
Location: PHX
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Wow, you're bad...

First of all, as stated earlier there is more than one black neighborhood in South Central. Oakland has ZERO majority black neighborhoods anywhere in the entire city...

You cant compare LA to Oakland straight up because LA is 10 times larger. Both the city of Oakland and South Central Los Angeles are the black epicenters of their region, and similar in geographical size (Oakland is 55.9 sq miles, South LA is 51 sq miles). So off the basis of these things alone, they are comparable...

FYI, Oakland is below 23% black now while South Central is still 28% black, and given the population of South Central is about 90% larger than the entire city of Oakland, there is about 130,000 more black people in South Central alone than the entire city of Oakland...

http://censusreporter.org/profiles/1...00-oakland-ca/

Again, the city of Oakland and South LA are almost identical in geography. For what it's worth, Oakland's black population is down 10.82% from the 2010 Census, as of 2018, while LA's black population is down 8.7% over the same time period....the 2010s saw a slowdown in the decrease of Black Angelenos compared to the previous three decades, while the entire Bay Area is losing blacks at high and near-high rates...

So, Oakland city is only half the size of South Central, with only 45% of the actual number of black people, in the same geographic area, with a lesser percentage of its population being black, and is losing blacks at a faster rate than LA......but Oakland has the stronger black culture?

You gonna have to do a better job of explaining how this works lol, because your analysis so far has been trash. I haven't even gone into the cultural impact both communities have had on their respective cities, or talked about peripheral areas that contribute to the black energy of the region, because then the gap becomes wider...

This poll is inaccurate, keep in mind we're on a predominantly white site where most people would no nothing of black history in either city; of the black contributors on here most of them wouldnt have more than a baseline knowledge of black history in either city; and the very nature of this nerdy analytic website forces people to "vote" on data at face value rather than contextualizing and comprehending exactly what they're looking at---->so people see Oakland 23% black, Los Angeles 8% black, case closed...

You can't go to either city and honestly think Oakland is "blacker", the issue is most people here don't go to Black LA when they visit LA...
I think this is a little much to assume that the votes are mostly from white people. How many actually care about a west city with a black presence thread in the first place? Also Tion has his own opinions but they tend to grow a bit dramatic in his posts, so I'm not sure this will get through to him in the long run...

The earlier posters from 2013-2014 are no longer active, but I'm sure many of them weren't white either. Either way you call it, I could put LA at #1 and Oakland at #2 just based on the size and effect of "black" LA. It's got a lock on the new century of pop culture, but historically Oakland has ranked more prominently in the black realm. Even with the turbulence in the black bay area community right now, many amazing things are occurring within the city that is transforming the culture of it.

Obviously if you been up here already...I'm not gong to go in on the changes, but the black community is fighting back and putting their staple in the "new" Oakland wave that is starting to blossom. LA is a place where blacks are known to be in a certain area, but not another all because of the racial knowledge people have prior to visiting. There are parts where black people just don't live still lol. It's gotten a heck of a lot better since the mid 2000s though, but Oakland doesn't have that big of a neighborhood divide. People got way too much going on in their day to day to beef over who lives where, and that is probably why black people live all across the city today.
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Old 03-11-2020, 12:08 AM
 
Location: Redondo Beach
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Los Angeles is still the black capital west of Texas. 8.6% of Black America still lives west if Texas, and the overall gravitas and appeal of Los Angeles to Black Americans is still there---->sure, not to the extent it was 20 years plus ago, as LA has been surpassed by DFW and Houston as black capitals, but LA will remain a prominent center of black culture so long as it is still that center of the black West, which isn't changing anytime in the foreseeable future...

Vegas' black culture has really blossomed this century but the place that is threatening is the Bay Area, not LA, as the #2 market for blacks out west...
Bro, you're right you cant compare cities fairly because of size differences. Or can you? LA is a larger city than Oakland. So large to where a neighborhood might be the size of Oakland. It doesnt change the fact that LA is NOT a black city. You made a lot of assumptioms on this post and inaccurate info. Oakland has many neighborhoods predominantly black. Also this post is based on the history of cities too. Oakland was once 47 pct black FOR THE WHOLE CITY, not a selected area you chose yourself for your own bias. LA has a section that's bigger than Oakland slightly, but Oakland was a black MAJOR CITY defined by OFFICIAL BOUNDARY LINES not custom ones you drew on citydata. LA has more white and Mexicans and asians too. It has more people being a bigger city. Nonetheless in LA you see blacks are like 4th place in LA while they were FIRST in Oakland. So yes LA has produced a lot for blacks and got exposure from Hollywood and theyy started the black panther party on LA I believe but its presence in the city is like 8pct while Oakland presence was predominantly black. Just seen how New Orleans and Oakland were the only major cities west of Mississippi with a predominantly black population throughout the history of America. LA has more blacks than atlanta and new orleans but would u say their presence is stronger? Heck no because blacks dominate those cities but LA is dominated by spanish and white. Phienix has more blacks than Compton but who has a stronger black presence?
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Old 03-11-2020, 12:18 AM
 
Location: North Raleigh x North Sacramento
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Bro, you're right you cant compare cities fairly because of size differences. Or can you? LA is a larger city than Oakland. So large to where a neighborhood might be the size of Oakland. It doesnt change the fact that LA is NOT a black city. You made a lot of assumptioms on this post and inaccurate info. Oakland has many neighborhoods predominantly black. Also this post is based on the history of cities too. Oakland was once 47 pct black FOR THE WHOLE CITY, not a selected area you chose yourself for your own bias. LA has a section that's bigger than Oakland slightly, but Oakland was a black MAJOR CITY defined by OFFICIAL BOUNDARY LINES not custom ones you drew on citydata. LA has more white and Mexicans and asians too. It has more people being a bigger city. Nonetheless in LA you see blacks are like 4th place in LA while they were FIRST in Oakland. So yes LA has produced a lot for blacks and got exposure from Hollywood and theyy started the black panther party on LA I believe but its presence in the city is like 8pct while Oakland presence was predominantly black. Just seen how New Orleans and Oakland were the only major cities west of Mississippi with a predominantly black population throughout the history of America. LA has more blacks than atlanta and new orleans but would u say their presence is stronger? Heck no because blacks dominate those cities but LA is dominated by spanish and white. Phienix has more blacks than Compton but who has a stronger black presence?
What neighborhoods in Oakland are majority (re:50%) black?
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Old 03-11-2020, 12:28 AM
 
Location: Redondo Beach
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What neighborhoods in Oakland are majority (re:50%) black?
Just found out black PANTHER PARTY is from Oakland. Also Oaklamds metro areas has higher black pct than LAs metro area and LA itself while having a more similar population..and to answer this question, basically all of east Oakland except funk town which is mostly Spanish and then u still got parts of west Oakland and north oakland that's still black. Even after gentrification 1 in 4 residence of the city is black and 1 in 4 is white and 1 in 4 is Spanish and 1in 4 is other. It's ranked as the ethnically most diverse city in the USA
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Old 03-11-2020, 12:36 AM
 
Location: North Raleigh x North Sacramento
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Just found out black PANTHER PARTY is from Oakland. Also Oaklamds metro areas has higher black pct than LAs metro area and LA itself while having a more similar population..and to answer this question, basically all of east Oakland except funk town which is mostly Spanish and then u still got parts of west Oakland and north oakland that's still black. Even after gentrification 1 in 4 residence of the city is black and 1 in 4 is white and 1 in 4 is Spanish and 1in 4 is other. It's ranked as the ethnically most diverse city in the USA
There is no longer any majority black neighborhoods left in Oakland. I'll be back to cook you at a later time...
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Old 03-11-2020, 12:46 AM
 
Location: Redondo Beach
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There is no longer any majority black neighborhoods left in Oakland. I'll be back to cook you at a later time...
Um I just told you neighborhoods. The nort, east and west Oakland and the mountain side "the hills". If you been to Oakland like I have, you would know

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