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I dont believe OMB classifications are idle chatter and insignificant, at least in regards to 1 state losing prestige and marketing autonomy to another. It could possibly effect global and domestic corporate marketing decisions.
Pennsylvania loses the subconcious glitter and honor of close to 1 M people and a $50 B economy to an already overinflated glutton.
For instance if the upstart Lehigh Valley was to become part of the Philadlephia region it could greatly enhance marketability between the 2 regions along 476 and 309.
Now that the incorrect perception is out there that the Lehigh Valley is connected with NJ/NY perhaps corporate interest sways eastward.
If the Lehigh Valley was a direct offspring of NY/NJ Id be the first person to give them credit ,But its Not and I dont. I just dont think any good can come to Pennsylvania to be losing perception and county data to NY. I'll give NY credit for Bergen County. I won't give them credit for Lehigh County where certain parts are 100 miles from NYC.
I don't even understand this. Surely for the Valley itself it would be economically better to be associated with "Greater NYC area". Most multinationals in NYC haven't even heard of old industrial area of Allentown, but now if they want to expand in the Greater NYC area it would at least show up on their radar. Also, businesses in the Lehigh valley can market themselves as "servicing New York City area", which will give them much more clout. Not to mention, the only NYC PA territory from 2000 census (Pike county) was the best performer in the whole state, so I don't understand how you can even make a case that being associated with NYC is bad for an area.
I dont think it is too much either really, probably should be its own place in actuality with ties to both, commuters slight advantage NYC CSA and culturally a stronger tie to Philly for Allentown
One totally non scientific metric
Google hits
Allentown/Philadelphia
20.8 Million hits on google Google
I dont think it is too much either really, probably should be its own place in actuality with ties to both, commuters slight advantage NYC CSA and culturally a stronger tie to Philly for Allentown
One totally non scientific metric
Google hits
Allentown/Philadelphia
20.8 Million hits on google Google
Well Allentown New York City is 8.4 Million Google
And Trenton New York City is 12.3 Million
So now we know that more pages use Allentown/NYC combination and not Allentown/New York City, but for Trenton its the other way around.
I'd bet that even more use Allentown/New York and Trenton/New York, but it is hard to judge since there is Trenton, NY and Allentown, NY in New York State.
They should have retitled this thread "The Philadelphia Inferiority Complex" (no disrespect to Kidphilly).
Maybe a few might but I don't. Census cuts don't stop me from going to Mercer County and I'm pretty sure it doesn't stop the thousands of people who commute to Mercer County from the Philly area. Overall I actually think the Philly area was represented well in the eastern and southern portions of the Delaware Valley.
However I will say that the Lehigh Valley being added to the NYC CSA was a complete shock to me. The New York area once again, continues to gobble up more areas surrounding Philly. I do feel that it's only a matter of time before the Philly area is absorbed by the NYC CSA as well.
The bigger these areas get the more useless they become as evaluating size and how to get around the metro. The best is just to get actual drive times, and add up the number of urban neighborhoods/downtowns if you are actually a city buff.
Maybe a few might but I don't. Census cuts don't stop me from going to Mercer County and I'm pretty sure it doesn't stop the thousands of people who commute to Mercer County from the Philly area. Overall I actually think the Philly area was represented well in the eastern and southern portions of the Delaware Valley.
However I will say that the Lehigh Valley being added to the NYC CSA was a complete shock to me. The New York area once again, continues to gobble up more areas surrounding Philly. I do feel that it's only a matter of time before the Philly area is absorbed by the NYC CSA as well.
What would be needed for it to become a Philadelphia-New York CSA? I mean what's the definition?
What would be needed for it to become a Philadelphia-New York CSA? I mean what's the definition?
In theory Burlignton County can make the connection today. If Mercer become a full blown MSA NYC county (think is like 24% now Burlington exceeds 15% with NYC and maintains over 25% with Philly)
Though based on the most recent commuter data Allentown connects with CSA NYC counties to make the CSA connection. Burlington already meets this criteria today
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