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The funniest thing about all of this is that they claim to be Southern to the core. Yet posters on C-D are denying this.
People forgetting the whole "dirty South" rap movement, which was very heavy in Miami/SFL. Or how Flo Rida, Ace Hood, Rick Ross, and virtually all hip hop artists from there claim southern heritage.
Hip Hop aside, native whites sound VERY southern, and yes, they tend to sound like the DeerMeatforDinner guy, who lives in Palm Beach County (Jupiter I believe.)
DC is "technically" a Southern Metro. It is Southern according to the US Census, but for all intents-and-purposes, most people consider it part of the "Mid-Atlantic."
Historically, using the Mason-Dixon Line, MD/DC were considered part of the traditional south, but over the years they have lost a lot of their Southern traits. They are the cultural meeting point of the South and the NE. They don't feel like the stereotypical South, but they also don't feel like the NE either.
DC (and Maryland) are "technically" Southern though.
According the the Department of Homeland security, Transportation, FCC, FAA, DC is in the NE corridor. I think these federal agencies have way more influence and higher budgets than the lowly Census.
The funniest thing about all of this is that they claim to be Southern to the core. Yet posters on C-D are denying this.
Well said, and great points made by Arcenal as well...
Anyone denying that South Florida has any Southern elements or influences is being disingenuous. I'm not going to necessarily claim it's more Southern than NoVa, as I am actually less familiar with the latter despite being much closer, but that's beside the particular point.
Sure, South Florida is heavily Hispanic and Northeastern and/or Jewish, but that doesn't magically terminate any Southern aspects, particularly for those who identify as South Floridian AND Southern. Not everyone does or even feels any identifiable connection, but that's fine. Just like not everyone is Cuban or from New York, etc...
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I cannot comment on NoVa, will not deny some Southern culture exists in SoFla but it is far from the dominant culture in the majority of coastal SoFla from my 4.5 year experience and why coastal/Atlantic Miami MSA is likely the only area of the state I could live in since it does not come across as Southern (or overly Southern...more like South America meets Santa Monica)—at least to me.
As I visit and drive north to Palm Beach County (and parts of Broward) it feels more “American”, not necessarily Southern to me. I have encountered Confederate flags when taking alternate routes down to the Keys though, overall, not close to what I experienced from a Southern experience when I lived in Atlanta (few decades ago) or Texas (mostly, but not exclusively Dallas, which I visited frequently for work for 30+ years)—and both of these areas have their share of ex NY’ers.
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I cannot comment on NoVa, will not deny some Southern culture exists in SoFla but it is far from the dominant culture in the majority of coastal SoFla from my 4.5 year experience and why coastal/Atlantic Miami MSA is likely the only area of the state I could live in since it does not come across as Southern (or overly Southern...more like South America meets Santa Monica)—at least to me. Not remotely close to what I experienced when I lived in Atlanta (few decades ago) or Texas (mostly, but not exclusively Dallas, which I visited frequently for work)—and both of these areas have their share of ex NY’ers.
I agree that it's not the dominant culture in the majority of COASTAL SFL, but it becomes quite heavy in many parts West of I-95/Turnpike, in the African-American communities throughout, those communities/towns South of Miami, and some rather large swaths of Palm Beach County.
Obviously, if you're going to stick to Brickell/Downtown Miami and Miami Beach, you will see very little (perhaps even none) of Southern culture.
Curious: Do people here consider Houston to be "Southern?"
I agree that it's not the dominant culture in the majority of COASTAL SFL, but it becomes quite heavy in many parts West of I-95/Turnpike, in the African-American communities throughout, those communities/towns South of Miami, and some rather large swaths of Palm Beach County.
Obviously, if you're going to stick to Brickell/Downtown Miami and Miami Beach, you will see very little (perhaps even none) of Southern culture.
Curious: Do people here consider Houston to be "Southern?"
I would guess if you asked the non south Beach/Brickell crowd, the majority of them would consider themselves southern?
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