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Its not full stop because its also a local and cultural demarcation. You are just choosing to focus on the one that makes you most comfortable for your argument, which is fine. Just call it what it is.
Actually, it is full stop once it’s been deemed a statistical geographical area:
Per your wiki source,
"Northern Virginia consists of the counties of Arlington, Fairfax, Loudoun, Prince William, and Stafford as well as the independent cities of Alexandria, Fairfax, Falls Church, Manassas, and Manassas Park."
"Businesses, governments and non-profit agencies may define the area considered "Northern Virginia" differently for various purposes. Many communities beyond the areas closest to Washington, DC also have close economic ties, as well as important functional ones, to Northern Virginia, especially regarding roads, railroads, airports, and other transportation."
"Of the 3,159,639 people in Northern Virginia in the 2019 estimates, 2,748,978 lived in "central" counties, or those counties and equivalent entities as delineated by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget as forming part of the urban core of the Washington Metropolitan Statistical Area. These counties include Arlington, Fairfax, Fauquier, Loudoun, Prince William, Stafford and the independent cities of Alexandria, Fairfax, Falls Church, Manassas, and Manassas Park."
Again, you are choosing to use which definition you are comfortable with to make your argument, which is fine. Just call it what it is.
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Per your wiki source,
"Northern Virginia consists of the counties of Arlington, Fairfax, Loudoun, Prince William, and Stafford as well as the independent cities of Alexandria, Fairfax, Falls Church, Manassas, and Manassas Park."
"Businesses, governments and non-profit agencies may define the area considered "Northern Virginia" differently for various purposes. Many communities beyond the areas closest to Washington, DC also have close economic ties, as well as important functional ones, to Northern Virginia, especially regarding roads, railroads, airports, and other transportation."
"Of the 3,159,639 people in Northern Virginia in the 2019 estimates, 2,748,978 lived in "central" counties, or those counties and equivalent entities as delineated by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget as forming part of the urban core of the Washington Metropolitan Statistical Area. These counties include Arlington, Fairfax, Fauquier, Loudoun, Prince William, Stafford and the independent cities of Alexandria, Fairfax, Falls Church, Manassas, and Manassas Park."
Again, you are choosing to use which definition you are comfortable with to make your argument, which is fine. Just call it what it is.
Per your wiki source,
"Northern Virginia consists of the counties of Arlington, Fairfax, Loudoun, Prince William, and Stafford as well as the independent cities of Alexandria, Fairfax, Falls Church, Manassas, and Manassas Park."
"Businesses, governments and non-profit agencies may define the area considered "Northern Virginia" differently for various purposes. Many communities beyond the areas closest to Washington, DC also have close economic ties, as well as important functional ones, to Northern Virginia, especially regarding roads, railroads, airports, and other transportation."
"Of the 3,159,639 people in Northern Virginia in the 2019 estimates, 2,748,978 lived in "central" counties, or those counties and equivalent entities as delineated by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget as forming part of the urban core of the Washington Metropolitan Statistical Area. These counties include Arlington, Fairfax, Fauquier, Loudoun, Prince William, Stafford and the independent cities of Alexandria, Fairfax, Falls Church, Manassas, and Manassas Park."
Again, you are choosing to use which definition you are comfortable with to make your argument, which is fine. Just call it what it is.
Nowhere does it state it consists *solely* of. Right at the top, it notes the counties and independent cities, in it’s entirety, that are NoVa: “Alexandria city, Arlington County, Clarke County, Culpeper County, Fairfax city, Fairfax County, Falls Church city, Fauquier County, Frederick County, Fredericksburg city, Loudoun County, Madison County, Manassas city, Manassas Park city, Prince William County, Rappahannock County, Spotsylvania County, Stafford County, Warren County, Winchester city”
The only ones choosing to decide what’s included in NoVa are those demanding it only include inner core suburbs. The above listed locales are, full stop, what is NoVa. Nothing more, and nothing less.
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Lol. You can't make this stuff up.
Correct; we cannot move geographical boundaries to fit our ideologies (again). See the above list, taken right from the source you just “lol’d” that confirms the counties and cities that are part of NoVa.
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Nowhere does it state it consists *solely* of. Right at the top, it notes the counties and independent cities, in it’s entirety, that are NoVa: “Alexandria city, Arlington County, Clarke County, Culpeper County, Fairfax city, Fairfax County, Falls Church city, Fauquier County, Frederick County, Fredericksburg city, Loudoun County, Madison County, Manassas city, Manassas Park city, Prince William County, Rappahannock County, Spotsylvania County, Stafford County, Warren County, Winchester city”
The only ones choosing to decide what’s included in NoVa are those demanding it only include inner core suburbs. The above listed locales are, full stop, what is NoVa. Nothing more, and nothing less.
Correct; we cannot move geographical boundaries to fit our ideologies (again). See the above list, taken right from the source you just “lol’d” that confirms the counties and cities that are part of NoVa.
Says the person claiming that literally the Southernmost major city in the country doesn't have Southern culture...
You keep digging yourself deeper into showing your ignorance to the topic, as well as not recognizing the facts being laid out upthread. Those counties are counties that make up Metropolitan Washington DC. It doesn't make them all "northern Virginia". Madison County, VA is dead center in the middle of the state and 90 miles from Washington. It's not in NOVA, nor is Rappahannock, Warren, or Winchester city. Winchester is north of all of these places, but it's not a part of cultural NOVA nor is it within an a hour drive. This is hilarious, you're just naming random places on a map that are yes lumped into one metropolitan region, due to commuting ties to the outer exurbs of NOVA. This doesn't make those places a part of NOVA, Madison County...double lol.
Says the person claiming that literally the Southernmost major city in the country doesn't have Southern culture...
You keep digging yourself deeper into showing your ignorance to the topic, as well as not recognizing the facts being laid out upthread. Those counties are counties that make up Metropolitan Washington DC. It doesn't make them all "northern Virginia". Madison County, VA is dead center in the middle of the state and 90 miles from Washington. It's not in NOVA, nor is Rappahannock, Warren, or Winchester city. Winchester is north of all of these places, but it's not a part of cultural NOVA nor is it within an a hour drive. This is hilarious, you're just naming random places on a map that are yes lumped into one metropolitan region, due to commuting ties to the outer exurbs of NOVA. This doesn't make those places a part of NOVA, Madison County...double lol.
Re: you’re just naming random places on a map - no. These are places that are listed as being part of NoVa, both geographically, and statistically. If you don’t like it, well, that’s too bad. These places exist, and they are very much part of Northern Virginia. You can call me “ignorant” and “not recognizing facts”, continuing these antics of jumping up and down, whining that a blue sky isn’t blue, but thankfully, statistics and data are there to support what I’m presenting you. No amount of push back is going to change the facts, unfortunately for you. The numerous rep points I’m receiving show many agree with me.
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Re: you’re just naming random places on a map - no. These are places that are listed as being part of NoVa, both geographically, and statistically. If you don’t like it, well, that’s too bad. These places exist, and they are very much part of Northern Virginia. You can call me “ignorant” and “not recognizing facts”, continuing these antics of jumping up and down, whining that a blue sky isn’t blue, but thankfully, statistics and data are there to support what I’m presenting you. No amount of push back is going to change the facts, unfortunately for you. The numerous rep points I’m receiving show many agree with me.
Well maybe you and your friends that are repping you should step away from Wikipedia, which is no different from you or I posting on this website. And research what actual Northern Virginia is, before confusing yourself on Southern culture.
Well maybe you and your friends that are repping you should step away from Wikipedia, which is no different from you or I posting on this website. And research what actual Northern Virginia is, before confusing yourself on Southern culture.
Rappahannock County
Fauquier County
Stafford County
Spotsylvania County
Caroline County
Prince William County
Fairfax County
Loudoun County
Culpeper County”
Quite a few very rural communities, according to that, likely with a *lot* more southern charm than Miramar or Oakland Park, FL - lol.
Exactly. There's nothing even remotely southern about South Florida.
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