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View Poll Results: Which is more urban?
Washington D.C. 21 14.48%
Philadelphia P.A. 124 85.52%
Voters: 145. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-25-2013, 02:35 PM
 
Location: The City
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Also, how do you think U City stacks up against the Rosslyn-Ballston Corridor in 2013?

Thye are different - one is science and medical hub - the other is more defense contractor.

Both have good subway access - though would say U City better in this regard with 30th St Station, Subways, Subway-Surface Trollys, Regional Rail stops etc.

U City also has two major universities (hard to compare on that aspect) with 80k workers and I believe about 80K residents. Probably a little better nightlife as well. Plus Wharton

Been a while since I spent any time in Rosslyn TBH
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Old 10-26-2013, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Shaw.
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Pentagon City and Crystal City are in the middle of major redevelopment. They will be vibrant very soon. And you already know what is happening in the places you didn't name. Those places already have tracts with population densities over 40,000 people per square mile and some close to 50,000 people per square mile if not over.
Pentagon City, Crystal City, and Rosslyn are all pretty boring, imo. Low-lying Clarendon is much superior. Bethesda and Silver Springs, however, are really nice.
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Old 10-28-2013, 01:21 PM
 
Location: The City
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MD Am curious if this style development qualifies as urban to you?



Shirt Corner redo to proceed unhindered in Old City | Philadelphia Real Estate Blog

Current corner today

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Phila...56.07,,0,-0.89
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Old 10-28-2013, 01:25 PM
 
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Philadelphia is arguably the second most urban city in the country, stands to reason that we don't compete.
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Old 10-28-2013, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Yeah, why wouldn't it?
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Old 10-28-2013, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Thye are different - one is science and medical hub - the other is more defense contractor.

Both have good subway access - though would say U City better in this regard with 30th St Station, Subways, Subway-Surface Trollys, Regional Rail stops etc.

U City also has two major universities (hard to compare on that aspect) with 80k workers and I believe about 80K residents. Probably a little better nightlife as well. Plus Wharton

Been a while since I spent any time in Rosslyn TBH

The Rosslyn-Ballston corridor is developing more like a traditional downtown. The only thing it has in common with U city is they are both outside of the main downtown for their respective cities. Other than that, they don't have much in common.
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Old 10-28-2013, 01:54 PM
 
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Yeah, why wouldn't it?

well its only 4-5 stories
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Old 10-28-2013, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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well its only 4-5 stories

When did I say something 4-5 stories would not be considered urban? I said there are tiers to urbanity? Tiers of intensity etc. Obviously row houses are urban, but are they are urban as high-rise's in a CBD? That seems to be what you are forgetting here. This isn't a yes or no answer. Two things can be urban, however, one can also be more urban than the other.

Take U City versus the Rosslyn-Ballston corridor. U City will never develop as intense or urban as the Rosslyn-Ballston corridor. The University being there is actually a hindrance for development intensity. It will never look like this:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=arlin...300.41,,0,0.35
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Old 10-28-2013, 02:23 PM
 
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When did I say something 4-5 stories would not be considered urban? I said there are tiers to urbanity? Tiers of intensity etc. Obviously row houses are urban, but are they are urban as high-rise's in a CBD? That seems to be what you are forgetting here. This isn't a yes or no answer. Two things can be urban, however, one can also be more urban than the other.

Take U City versus the Rosslyn-Ballston corridor. U City will never develop as intense or urban as the Rosslyn-Ballston corridor. The University being there is actually a hindrance for development intensity. It will never look like this:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=arlin...300.41,,0,0.35
Dunno - that image looks like a string of Apartment/cndo buildings without much else. To me U City felt more urban to me based on my experience with Rosslyn
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Old 10-28-2013, 02:27 PM
 
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When did I say something 4-5 stories would not be considered urban? I said there are tiers to urbanity? Tiers of intensity etc. Obviously row houses are urban, but are they are urban as high-rise's in a CBD? That seems to be what you are forgetting here. This isn't a yes or no answer. Two things can be urban, however, one can also be more urban than the other.

Take U City versus the Rosslyn-Ballston corridor. U City will never develop as intense or urban as the Rosslyn-Ballston corridor. The University being there is actually a hindrance for development intensity. It will never look like this:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=arlin...300.41,,0,0.35
That looks like Miami on cheap faux bricks.
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