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Ok sorry - Toronto consists of 20 ingloo's housing 200 people. We hunt seals in Lake Ontario and when the seal supply runs dry from time to time we resort to Canibalism because the village market has empty shelves.
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Let's face it. Canadians are simply a superior peoples. It is only a matter of time before we must bow to our northern betters.
I'm not at all doubting that Chicago has many festivals and world class attractions/events... I just think Toronto's are typically more prolific, bigger and more well known.
Wait, do you honestly think Toronto has something more well known, prolific, and bigger than Lollapalooza? You obviously don't know what Lollapalooza is. I'll give you a hint. There were 270,000 people who attended it last year. I was there in 2011 in the middle of a crowd of about 100,000 for Eminem alone while there were other headliners playing at the same time. It's one of the top music festivals in the entire world and I met people from all around the world who traveled to Chicago just for it. They just recently started one in Chile and Brazil.
Spring Awakening last year drew 50,000 people. EDC is one of the largest electronica festivals in the world.
The average attendance of CMF is 50,000-100,000. Meaning Lollapalooza draws 3-5 times more people than what's supposedly the largest music festival in Canada.
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Ok great - and this makes it bigger than TIFF, Caribana (has lots of music and 1.3 million revellers), Toronto's massive Gay pride or bigger theatre scene and much larger zoo? Not really
I will give Chicago these as well - more latin festivals and a bigger food festival but on the whole I still don't think it is a bigger festival/event or cultural powerhouse. Again I've also given Chicago's museum a slight edge over T.O though Toronto really is upping its game on the Museum front...
2nd largest fashion week in N.A after NYC (not sure about the Caribbean though)
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Wait, do you honestly think Toronto has something more well known, prolific, and bigger than Lollapalooza? You obviously don't know what Lollapalooza is. I'll give you a hint. There were 270,000 people who attended it last year. I was there in 2011 in the middle of a crowd of about 100,000 for Eminem alone while there were other headliners playing at the same time. Spring Awakening last year drew 50,000 people. EDC is the largest electronica festival in the US.
The average attendance of CMF is 50,000-100,000. Meaning Lollapalooza draws 3-5 times more people than what's supposedly the largest music festival in Canada.
Toronto is a great city, but they do NOT have a music festival larger than Lollapalooza. It's one of the most well known music festivals around the world and one of the big three largest and most prolific in the US along with Bonaroo and Coachella. It's a good deal bigger than CMF.
Even Spring Awakening last year was around the same size as CMF and this festival is barely known outside of...well..who knows. Not the US that's for sure
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I will give Chicago these as well - more latin festivals and a bigger food festival but on the whole I still don't think it is a bigger festival/event or cultural powerhouse. Again I've also given Chicago's museum a slight edge over T.O as well but imo doesn't bring it on top.
Really, which Latin festivals? There are not that many in Chicago. I know of the Latino Film Festival, Puerto Rican Independence stuff...and that's all I can name.
I'm not doubting what you are saying about Lollapalooza I don't think you are understanding that I am speaking big picture and overall. Sure either city is going to have bigger individual elements than the other. Additionally - Chicago IS a great city I know that and love it.
I read somewhere there are some Mexican and Puerto Rican festivals that are pretty big actually - a few hundred thousand in each - Toronto doesn't have such large latin festivals though we would have larger Italian, Greek, Polish, South Asian and Indian one's for sure.
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Toronto is a great city, but they do NOT have a music festival larger than Lollapalooza. It's one of the most well known music festivals around the world and one of the big three largest and most prolific in the US along with Bonaroo and Coachella. It's a good deal bigger than CMF.
Even Spring Awakening last year was around the same size as CMF and this festival is barely known outside of...well..who knows. Not the US that's for sure
Really, which Latin festivals? There are not that many in Chicago. I know of the Latino Film Festival, Puerto Rican Independence stuff...and that's all I can name.
I'm not doubting what you are saying about Lollapalooza I don't think you are understanding that I am speaking big picture and overall. Sure either city is going to have bigger individual elements than the other. Additionally - Chicago IS a great city I know that and love it.
I read somewhere there are some Mexican and Puerto Rican festivals that are pretty big actually - a few hundred thousand in each - Toronto doesn't have such large latin festivals though we would have larger Italian, Greek, Polish, South Asian and Indian one's for sure.
You didn't understand that is what I was saying before. I was speaking with Lollapalooza because you said nothing in Chicago is more epic and bigger than what Toronto has, and I used Lollapalooza as an example. Yes but Chicago is more than just Lollapalooza. The ones I listed alone (not to mention Pitchfork) get tens of thousands of people each for the most part and some are known from around the world, such as Pitchfork, EDC, and Lollapalooza and ramping up to be that way for Spring Awakening. Ravinia is also the oldest outdoor music festival in the US in which 600,000 people attend every year. Spring Awakening alone had as much attendance as Canada's largest festivals and it's not even known outside of the US and a few "in the know" people around the world.
Mexican festivals, I may have missed that. I know the Puerto Rican one is big but it's not hundreds of thousands. Mexican festival I could believe that. I know of a big Mexican market in the summer.
Honestly though, even the biggest NYC homers who have actually spent a summer in Chicago will tell you it's probably the best large city in the summer in the US if not N. America.
Well I can list my stuff off about Toronto and you can about Chicago and we won't sway the other. Personally - I think I've riffled off some pretty convincing arguments in favour of Toronto and again - it isn't to slight Chicago in the least. I know Chicago is a world class city with the events and attractions and size to back that up - but Toronto and largely because of larger growth in the last few decades and in particular due to cultural and social diversity really has a huge list of items to back up its claim to being right up there at the top in N.A and I stand by what I've said about it edging Chicago in terms of being the more prominent in terms of festivals, events and attractions.
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Honestly though, even the biggest NYC homers who have actually spent a summer in Chicago will tell you it's probably the best large city in the summer in the US if not N. America.
Two Chicago festivals are listed (Pitchfork and Lollapalooza). Zero for Toronto. The closest is WEMF which is 200 miles north of Toronto.
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