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Hunting Valley near Cleveland is the 6th richest city in the country. Shaker Heights and Cleveland Heights also have some incredible old mansions, similar to the pictures I saw of Myers Park on a quick google search.
Guess someone needs to edit their wikipedia page...
And I'm not saying those are great suburbs. They're spreadout, with huge houses and ranches and narrow roads, with a Harris Teeter or new elementary school sprinkled in. I prefer Huntersville, Cornelius, and Davidson by a long shot. But your comment about Hunting Valley was just about income.
Nah. I'm in the business. No-one, except newly hired deans and anxious parents, takes the US News rankings seriously. Oberlin has national reach. Davidson, while a very good school, compared to Oberlin is a regional glorified prep school.
So what's a reputable list out there that can be used? You're obviously very biased so it would be helpful to use an objective source here. I'm not saying that Davidson is better than Oberlin, but I think it's quite possible that you're really shortchanging Davidson here.
Washington Monthly's 2012 liberal arts college rankings lists Oberlin at #12 and Davidson at #16, which makes them pretty comparable in terms of the criteria used in that ranking: Liberal Arts College Rankings 2012 | Washington Monthly
At any rate, Case Western Reserve certainly makes the case for Cleveland in terms of comprehensive research universities. For private liberal arts colleges, the two appear to be a bit more equal.
Charlotte is one of the least appealing places I have ever been to. I love Cleveland, so much character.
I can probably guess that you didn't see much of the city outside of Uptown. Of course Cleveland has more historic character than Charlotte--no one would really argue that--but Charlotte has more than a lot a people are aware of because there's typically little reason for visitors to venture outside of Uptown where the true soul of the city is to be found.
Posters on this board have been saying for years that Cleveland is turning around and it's getting ready to make this big come back. Fast forward to 2014 and that city has firmly cemented itself as the next Detroit. Charlotte and Cleveland are nothing alike. The two cities are heading in totally different directions. Cleveland going further down, and Charlotte heading futher up. Same for the two states, Ohio versus North Carolina.
Posters on this board have been saying for years that Cleveland is turning around and it's getting ready to make this big come back. Fast forward to 2014 and that city has firmly cemented itself as the next Detroit. Charlotte and Cleveland are nothing alike. The two cities are heading in totally different directions. Cleveland going further down, and Charlotte heading futher up. Same for the two states, Ohio versus North Carolina.
Now I wouldn't go THAT far. From my perspective, which is limited I'll admit, Cleveland seems to be following more in the footsteps of Pittsburgh than Detroit. The old heavy industrial cities/states are having to transition to a post-industrial economy which isn't a challenge for states that never had much heavy industry to begin with. But it does give the industrial cities/states an advantage with respect to infrastructure and such.
People who don't understand the intricacies of old established cities like Cleveland resort to lists and statistics to show their decline, when the signs of revival are clearly evident when you look at them closely. Naturally, it will take time for certain facts and figures to show marked improvement, but the initial indicators of revival are in place.
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Posters on this board have been saying for years that Cleveland is turning around and it's getting ready to make this big come back. Fast forward to 2014 and that city has firmly cemented itself as the next Detroit. Charlotte and Cleveland are nothing alike. The two cities are heading in totally different directions. Cleveland going further down, and Charlotte heading futher up. Same for the two states, Ohio versus North Carolina.
One of the most ridiculous, non-thinking C-D posts I've ever seen.
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