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View Poll Results: More economically relevant state in the future
California 195 56.85%
Texas 148 43.15%
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Houston
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I was replying to Matt's ridiculous hamburger post. But, since you brought all that into a Texas vs. California economic relevance thread, you do realize that statewide, in each of those categories you list, California is ahead of Texas and growing at similar, if not greater measures, right?

really lets sewhat a CA paper has to say..Texas vs. California in the Economy Bowl :: SFBay
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Baghdad by the Bay (San Francisco, California)
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really lets sewhat a CA paper has to say..Texas vs. California in the Economy Bowl :: SFBay
Heh, that's not a "paper," it's a glorified blog. And that "article" is dated April 8, 2012, reporting data from 2011, and still says nothing to dispute what I said.
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:37 PM
 
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never heard of that blog, just read 5 to 10 articles, they made me sad
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Heh, that's not a "paper," it's a glorified blog. And that "article" is dated April 8, 2012, reporting data from 2011, and still says nothing to dispute what I said.
ok would you rather have this then
Texas v. California: The Real Facts Behind The Lone Star State's Miracle - Forbes
unless forbes has become a blog

Hell just google Texas economy vs cali, I am not going to run down every article for you.. take your pick CNN money, Business insider, th economist, etc

Oh and for the record I have nothing against cali but when some poster start to make abursd and ignorant statements showing they know knowing about Texas Then I'm fire back... Notice I never dissed Cali. just pointed out the math

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Old 09-13-2013, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Based off of current statistics, Texas.
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Old 09-13-2013, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Baghdad by the Bay (San Francisco, California)
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ok would you rather have this then
Texas v. California: The Real Facts Behind The Lone Star State's Miracle - Forbes
unless forbes has become a blog

Hell just google Texas economy vs cali, I am not going to run down every article for you.. take your pick CNN money, Business insider, th economist, etc
I read your article and it still didn't tell me that Texas' medical, port operations, technology, or aerospace sectors were bigger than California's. That was your assertion.

Now, if you are only interested in posting articles that talk about which of the two states fared better through the "Great Recession," I'll save you some time. Texas did much better in that period. California fell harder than most, but has rebounded faster than most believed possible.

Even with that collapse, California remained the larger economy and with the rebound, is back on track, growing again. It's not personal and the question is not a snapshot of one period of time or about which policies handled an economic calamity better. California's rebound from the "Great Recession" makes this discussion moot. Projections based on that snapshot will be statistical anomalies. Sort of like the people who were projecting in the '70s that Houston would have 15 million people by the year 2000. Then, the '80s came and corrected the anomaly.

The question here concerns whether California has or will continue to have a bigger, more important economy than Texas. Certain segments grow faster here. Others grow faster there. Overall, though, California is larger and more important.
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Old 09-13-2013, 01:20 PM
 
Location: LBC
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ok would you rather have this then
Texas v. California: The Real Facts Behind The Lone Star State's Miracle - Forbes
unless forbes has become a blog

Hell just google Texas economy vs cali, I am not going to run down every article for you.. take your pick CNN money, Business insider, th economist, etc

Oh and for the record I have nothing against cali but when some poster start to make abursd and ignorant statements showing they know knowing about Texas Then I'm fire back... Notice I never dissed Cali. just pointed out the math
Nice opinion piece. By Chuck DeVore, who "is an American politician who served as a RepublicanCalifornia State Assembly from 2004 to 2010 and represented the 70th District, which includes portions of Orange County. DeVore was Vice Chair of the Assembly Revenue and Taxation Committee and sat on the Joint Legislative Audit Committee and Veterans Affairs Committee. After losing a 2010 bid for Republican nomination for the United States Senate, in 2011 DeVore moved to Texas to work for the Texas Public Policy Foundation where he is now Vice President for Policy." Chuck DeVore - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I've corresponded with him before. He's an idiot, and you are welcome to keep him.

You also get interesting results when you include "myth" in that Google search. Including:

Texas Watch | Texas: ‘Miracle’ or Myth?

“Texas: Miracle or Myth?â€
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Old 09-13-2013, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Nice opinion piece. By Chuck DeVore, who "is an American politician who served as a RepublicanCalifornia State Assembly from 2004 to 2010 and represented the 70th District, which includes portions of Orange County. DeVore was Vice Chair of the Assembly Revenue and Taxation Committee and sat on the Joint Legislative Audit Committee and Veterans Affairs Committee. After losing a 2010 bid for Republican nomination for the United States Senate, in 2011 DeVore moved to Texas to work for the Texas Public Policy Foundation where he is now Vice President for Policy." Chuck DeVore - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I've corresponded with him before. He's an idiot, and you are welcome to keep him.

You also get interesting results when you include "myth" in that Google search. Including:

Texas Watch | Texas: ‘Miracle’ or Myth?

“Texas: Miracle or Myth?”
Texas is a great place to live, if you don't mind living in a terrible place to live.

One other poster hit it right on the head - Texas is the China of the United States.

That's not to say California is free from its own issues. However, those prognosticating some sort of doomsday scenario for California typically have a skin-deep understanding of the state and the issues it faces. If that. Mostly they are just "libertarian" cheerleaders (and typically "buffet" libertarians at that) looking for some sort of validation that their incredibly basic political ideals are correct.
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Old 09-13-2013, 02:18 PM
 
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Texas is a great place to live, if you don't mind living in a terrible place to live.

One other poster hit it right on the head - Texas is the China of the United States.

That's not to say California is free from its own issues. However, those prognosticating some sort of doomsday scenario for California typically have a skin-deep understanding of the state and the issues it faces. If that. Mostly they are just "libertarian" cheerleaders (and typically "buffet" libertarians at that) looking for some sort of validation that their incredibly basic political ideals are correct.
The truth has been spoken!
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Old 09-13-2013, 02:28 PM
 
Location: LBC
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Texas is a great place to live, if you don't mind living in a terrible place to live.

One other poster hit it right on the head - Texas is the China of the United States.

That's not to say California is free from its own issues. However, those prognosticating some sort of doomsday scenario for California typically have a skin-deep understanding of the state and the issues it faces. If that. Mostly they are just "libertarian" cheerleaders (and typically "buffet" libertarians at that) looking for some sort of validation that their incredibly basic political ideals are correct.
Amen. And expanding on your point, it's hardly just Texans pushing that Doomsday fantasy; it's that loosely defined ideological group you've identified, be they in TX, AZ or even Huntington Beach (when they're not kicking over porta-potties.) Although the CA version of these folks portray themselves as particularly put-upon, largely because they think Sean Penn is hiding under their bed. They also comprise a disproportionate share of our "contribution" the population increases in certain states.

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