2012 Combined Statistical Area Gross Product-Released September 17, 2013 (better, largest, places, difference)

[rainrock]

Dude look at that satellite. NYC jumped over Western Jersey which is very rural/mountainous, the Delaware River,Eastern Pa,The Lehigh Valley(very wildernistic area) and the Lehigh River to claim Allentown.

Its a joke The OMB is out of their tree with this CMSA nonsense.

I have been tryiong to educate the masses that the CMSA is garbage. Its trash.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

Isn't Tokyo's nearly 2T? NYC still isn't that close...

Yeah, Tokyo is $1.8-$2 trillion

[gwillyfromphilly]

Originally Posted by rainrock

Dude look at that satellite. NYC jumped over Western Jersey which is very rural/mountainous, the Delaware River,Eastern Pa,The Lehigh Valley(very wildernistic area) and the Lehigh River to claim Allentown.

Its a joke The OMB is out of their tree with this CMSA nonsense.

I have been tryiong to educate the masses that the CMSA is garbage. Its trash.

The CSA connection was largely due to Warren County, NJ which is part of the Lehigh Valley MSA. To be fair that county does offer commuter rail service to NYC on the NJT Montclair-Boonton Line and the Morristown Line. Are you trying to say that NYC wrongfully and secretly changed the numbers to make the region look good on the stat sheets?

[rainrock]

Originally Posted by gwillyfromphilly

The CSA connection was largely due to Warren County, NJ which is part of the Lehigh Valley MSA. To be fair that county does offer commuter rail service to NYC on the NJT Montclair-Boonton Line and the Morristown Line. Are you trying to say that NYC wrongfully and secretly changed the numbers to make the region look good on the stat sheets?

What I am saying is that Allentown should not be part of the NYC metro area.

[18Montclair]

HERE IS ALL THE INFO AGAIN IN ONE POST, and CORRECTED TO REFLECT THE ACCURATE DATA FOR NY and Minneapolis
*There is no data for the Poughkeepsie Metro Area
* No Micro Area data is available, but their numbers are too small to really affect any change in the overall ranking
* I didn't rank Cleveland as 18th because it doesn't have the 18th highest GDP(that would be Portland which is just shy of 3 million people), but is included in this list because it has a population of 3 Million+
* There are revised figures for 2011 and 2010


2012 Combined StatisticalArea Gross Product-Released September 17, 2013
CSA and uncombined MSA, population 3 Million+

1. New York-Newark, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA $1.550 Trillion
Allentown-Bethlehem-Easton, PA-NJ Metro Area $31.998 Billion
Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, CT Metro Area $86.338 Billion
East Stroudsburg, PA Metro Area $4.982 Billion
Kingston, NY Metro Area $4.829 Billion
New Haven-Milford, CT Metro Area $40.084 Billion
New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA Metro Area $1,358,416 Billion
Poughkeepsie-Newburgh-Middletown, NY Metro Area: No Data
Trenton-Ewing, NJ Metro Area $28.406 Billion

2. Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA CSA $918.834 Billion
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA Metro Area $765.759 Billion
Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA Metro Area $39.077 Billion
Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA Metro Area $113.998 Billion

3.Washington-Baltimore-Arlington, DC-MD-VA-WV-PA CSA $629.224 Billion
Baltimore-Towson, MD Metro Area $157.260 Billion
California-Lexington Park, MD Metro Area $5.249 Billion
Chambersburg-Waynesboro, PA Metro Area $4.282 Billion
Hagerstown-Martinsburg, MD-VA Metro Area $8.295 Billion
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV Metro Area $448.741 Billion
Winchester, VA-WV Metro Area $5.397 Billion

4. San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA $606.743 Billion
Napa, CA Metro Area $7.372 Billion
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA Metro Area $360.495 Billion
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA Metro Area $173.908 Billion
Santa Cruz-Watsonville, CA Metro Area $20.325 Billion
Santa Rosa-Petaluma, CA Metro Area $9.574 Billion
Stockton-Lodi, CA Metro Area $20.390 Billion
Vallejo-Fairfield, CA Metro Area $14.679 Billion

5. Chicago-Naperville, IL-IN-WI CSA $578.275 Billion
Chicago-Naperville-Joliet, IL-IN-WI Metro Area $571.008 Billion
Kankakee-Bradley, IL Metro Area $3.481 Billion
Michigan City-La Porte, IN Metro Area $3.786 Billion

6. Boston-Worcester-Providence, MA-RI-NH CSA $470.343 Billion
Barnstable Town, MA Metro Area$ 8.595 Billion
Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH Metro Area $336.232 Billion
Manchester-Nashua, NH Metro Area $22.160 Billion
Providence-New Bedford-Fall River, RI-MA Metro Area $69.530 Billion
Worcester, MA Metro Area $33.826 Billion

7. Houston-The Woodlands, TX CSA $449.439 Billion
Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX Metro Area $449.439 Billion

8. Dallas-Fort Worth, TX-OKCSA $424.018 Billion
Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX Metro Area $420.340 Billion
Sherman-Denison, TX Metro Area $3.678 Billion

9. Philadelphia-Reading-Camden, PA-NJ-DE-MD CSA $408.170 Billion
Atlantic City-Hammonton, NJ Metro Area $13.185 Billion
Dover, DE Metro Area $6.336 Billion
Ocean City, NJ Metro Area $4.273 Billion
Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD Metro Area $364.009 Billion
Reading, PA Metro Area $15.208 BillionVineland-Millville-Bridgeton, NJ Metro Area $5.159 Billion

10. Atlanta-Athens/Clarke County-Sandy Springs, GA-AL CSA $301.428 Billion
Athens-Clarke County, GA Metro Area $6.839 Billion
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA Metro Area $294.589 Billion

11. Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Port St Lucie, FL CSA $298.851 Billion
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-West Palm Beach, FL Metro Area $274.105 Billion
Port St Lucie, Fl Metro Area $11.500 Billion
Sebastian-Vero Beach, FL Metro Area $4.359 Billion

12. Seattle-Tacoma, WA CSA $273.462 Billion
Bremerton-Silverdale, WA Metro Area$9.132 Billion
Mount Vernon-Anacortes, WA MetroArea $5.511 Billion
Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA MetroArea $258.819 Billion

13. Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor, MI CSA $243.551 Billion
Ann Arbor, MI Metro Area $19.310Billion
Detroit-Warren-Dearborn, MI MetroArea $208.379 Billion
Flint, MI Metro Area $11.713Billion
Monroe, MI Metro Area $4.149Billion

14. Minneapolis-St Paul, MN-WI CSA$228.301 Billion
Minneapolis-St Paul-Bloomington,MN-WI Metro Area $220.167 Billion
St. Cloud, MN Metro Area $8.134 Billion

15. Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ MSA $201.653 Billion

16. Denver-Aurora, CO CSA $196.187 Billion
Boulder, CO Metro Area $20.332Billion
Denver-Aurora-Lakewood, CO MetroArea $167.886 Billion
Greeley, CO Metro Area $7.969Billion

17. San Diego-Carlsbad, CA MSA $ $177.410 Billion

Cleveland-Akron-Canton, OH CSA $155.107 Billion
Akron, OH Metro Area $29.466Billion
Canton-Massilon, OH Metro Area$14.044 Billion
Cleveland-Elyria, OH Metro Area$111.597 Billion

Top 17 by Percentage Change
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Port St Lucie +7.9%
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland +6.6%
Seattle-Tacoma +5.8%
Houston-The Woodlands +5.6%
Minneapolis-St Paul +5.5%
Dallas-Ft Worth +$5.4%
San Diego-Carlsbad +4.7%
Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale +4.6%
Los Angeles-Long Beach +4.3%
Denver-Aurora +4.2%
Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor +4.2%
Atlanta-Athens/Clarke County-Sandy Springs +4.1%
Chicago-Naperville +4.1%
Boston-Worcester-Providence +3.7%
Philadelphia-Reading-Camden +3.2%
Washington-Baltimore-Arlington +2.9%
New York-Newark +2.7%

Top 17 by Numerical GDP Growth
New York-Newark +$41.500 Billion
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland +$38.115 Billion
Los Angeles-Long Beach +$38.054 Billion
Houston-The Woodlands +$24.138 Billion
Chicago-Naperville +$22.835 Billion
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Port St Lucie +$22.826 Billion
Dallas-Ft Worth +$21.807 Billion
Washington-Baltimore-Arlington +$18.194 Billion
Boston-Worcester-Providence +$16.367 Billion
Seattle-Tacoma +$15.152 Billion
Philadelphia-Reading-Camden +$12.866 Billion
Atlanta-Athens/Clarke County-Sandy Springs +12.288 Billion
Minneapolis-St Paul +$12.086
Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor +$10.044 Billion
Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale +$9.332 Billion
San Diego-Carlsbad +$7.522 Billion
Denver-Aurora +$7.494 Billion

1. New York-Newark, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA
2012 $1.550 Trillion
2011 $1.508 Trillion
Numerical GDP Change: +$41.5 Billion
Percentage Change: +2.7

2. Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA CSA
2012 GDP $918.834 Billion
2011 GDP $880.780 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$38.054 Billion
Percentage Change: +4.3%

3. Washington-Baltimore-Arlington, DC-MD-VA-WV-PA CSA
2012 GDP $629.224 Billion
2011 GDP $611.030 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$18.194 Billion
Percentage Change: +2.9%

4. San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA
2012 GDP $606.743 Billion
2011 GDP $568.628 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$38.115 Billion
Percentage Change: +6.6%

5. Chicago-Naperville, IL-IN-WI CSA
2012 GDP $578.275 Billion
2011 GDP $555.440 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$22.835 Billion
Percentage Change: +4.1%

6. Boston-Worcester-Providence, MA-RI-NH CSA
2012 GDP $470.343 Billion
2011 GDP $453.976 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$16.367 Billion
Percentage Change: +3.7%

7. Houston-The Woodlands, TX CSA
2012 GDP $449.439 Billion
2011 GDP $425.301 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$24.138 Billion
Percentage Change: +5.6%

8. Dallas-Fort Worth, TX-OK CSA
2012 GDP $424.018 Billion
2011 GDP $402.211 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$21.807 Billion
Percentage Change: +5.4%

9. Philadelphia-Reading-Camden, PA-NJ-DE-MD CSA
2012 GDP $408.170 Billion
2011 GDP $395.304 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$12.866 Billion
Percentage Change: +3.2%

10. Atlanta-Athens/Clarke County-Sandy Springs, GA-AL CSA
2012 GDP $301.428 Billion
2011 GDP $289.140 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$12.288 Billion
Percentage Change: +4.1%

11. Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Port St Lucie, FL CSA
2012 GDP $298.851 Billion
2011 GDP $276.025 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$22.826 Billion
Percentage Change: +7.9%

12. Seattle-Tacoma, WA CSA
2012 GDP $273.462 Billion
2011 GDP $258.310 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$15.152 Billion
Percentage Change: +5.8%

13. Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor, MI CSA
2012 GDP $243.551 Billion
2011 GDP $233.507 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$10.044 Billion
Percentage Change: +4.2%

14. Minneapolis-St Paul, MN-WI CSA
2012 GDP $228.301 Billion
2011 GDP $216.215 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$12.086 Billion
Percentage Change: +5.5%

15. Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ MSA
2012 GDP $201.653 Billion
2011 GDP $192.321 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$9.332 Billion
Percentage Change: +4.6%

16. Denver-Aurora, CO CSA
2012 GDP $196.187 Billion
2011 GDP $188.693 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$7.494 Billion
Percentage Change: +4.2%

17. San Diego-Carlsbad, CA MSA
2012 GDP $177.410 Billion
2011 GDP $169.888 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: $7.522 Billion
Percentage Change: +4.7%

Please check my work on your CSA/MSA to ensure accuracy:
http://bea.gov/newsreleases/regional..._metro0913.pdf

[gwillyfromphilly]

Originally Posted by rainrock

What I am saying is that Allentown should not be part of the NYC metro area.

Allentown and it's immediate areas probably have a very low commuter rate to the New York MSA. So in a sense I can understand your argument on that part but that fact remains that the Lehigh Valley MSA includes Warren County, NJ and that county was able to reach the CSA threshold with the NYC area while still maintaining the 25% MSA threshold for the Allentown MSA. If trends continue the way they are, Philly and NYC will combine into one CSA in the near future(if not already in some cases).

The Los Angeles CSA will most likely surpass the New York CSA in population and GDP as well in the next 20 years if Philly isn't added to the New York CSA. So even from a conspiracy perspective it makes a lot of sense.

[bigstick]

For Atlanta not to have another MAJOR city included in its CSA, that figure is amazing.

[18Montclair]

Metro Area(MSA) by GDP, 2012
$250 Billion+
New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island $1.358 Billion
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana $765.759 Billion
Chicago-Naperville-Joliet $571.008 Billion
Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land $449.439 Billion
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria $448.741 Billion
Dallas-Ft Worth-Arlington $420.340 Billion
Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington $364.009 Billion
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont $360.495 Billion
Boston-Cambridge-Quincy $336.232 Billion
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta $294.589 Billion
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-West Palm Beach $274.105 Billion
Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue $258.819 Billion

Per Capita Metro Area(MSA) GDP, 2012
$250 Billion+
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont $80,919
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria $76,576
Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue $72,865
Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land $72,760
Boston-Cambridge-Quincy $72,463
New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island $68,478
Dallas-Ft Worth-Arlington $62,737
Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington $60,486
Chicago-Naperville-Joliet $59,967
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana $58,669
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta $53,983
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Pompano Beach $47,571

[gwillyfromphilly]

Originally Posted by bigstick

For Atlanta not to have another MAJOR city included in its CSA, that figure is amazing.

It truly is a stand alone city in that regard.

[qc dreamin]

Originally Posted by bigstick

For Atlanta not to have another MAJOR city included in its CSA, that figure is amazing.

Houston as well....