2012 Combined Statistical Area Gross Product-Released September 17, 2013 (live, comparison, America, school)

[supermanpansy]

Originally Posted by Vlajos

Not the three year average.

I think that that one fell lost on her. You brought up math. Might not be her strong suit.

[gwillyfromphilly]

Originally Posted by supermanpansy

Not a chance. NYC and Philly are eventually going to converge. And why the heck shouldn't they? It really is one continuous urban environment. The sole measuring stick for MSA's or CSA's. In my opinion LA has maxed out. They will grow more for their location (Mexico-illegals), but as security gets tougher and deportation takes more of an effect LA will shrink. LA used to have a lot of factory type jobs contrary to what many people think about LA. But that industry has taken a big hit. I just don't see it happening. Add SD to LA and you get around 2-3 million more. Add Philly to NYC and you get 6. LA doesn't really stand a chance. No offense.

With Philly and NYC combined then I agree but if not than LA will most likely surpass the New York CSA.

[gwillyfromphilly]

Originally Posted by supermanpansy

I think that that one fell lost on her. You brought up math. Might not be her strong suit.

Not sure why you would think I'm a female as my profile clearly stats I'm a guy.

[supermanpansy]

Originally Posted by gwillyfromphilly

With Philly and NYC combined then I agree but if not than LA will most likely surpass the New York CSA.

I don't know why I thought you were female either. My bad. Even if NYC didn't combine, it still wouldn't matter. But the fact is, if LA and SD combine, then NYC and Philly would as well. Either way, it's not going to surpass NYC in its lifetime, much rather than by the year 2020. Let's face it, any place can surpass any other place in a lifetime not factoring in all the "unknowns"; however, by 2020 is laughable and I'm not trying to put you down by saying that. That's just have laughable it is.

[18Montclair]

Because we aren't able to edit our posts after a certain amount of time, which by the way SUCKS, I would first like to thank those here who have done as I have asked and looked into their own CSAs/MSAs to make sure that I didn't make a mistake.

So far, the diligence of other forumers has revealed 3 cities that I have corrected-New York, Miami and Minneapolis.

A Big Thanks!!

Here is the updated list(Please continue to help me out by pointing out errors-thanks):

2012 Combined Statistical Area Gross Product-Released September 17, 2013

1. New York-Newark, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA $1.550 Trillion
Allentown-Bethlehem-Easton, PA-NJ Metro Area $31.998 Billion
Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, CT Metro Area $86.338 Billion
East Stroudsburg, PA Metro Area $4.982 Billion
Kingston, NY Metro Area $4.829 Billion
New Haven-Milford, CT Metro Area $40.084 Billion
New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA Metro Area $1,358,416 Billion
Poughkeepsie-Newburgh-Middletown, NY Metro Area: No Data
Trenton-Ewing, NJ Metro Area $28.406 Billion

2. Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA CSA $918.834 Billion
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA Metro Area $765.759 Billion
Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA Metro Area $39.077 Billion
Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA Metro Area $113.998 Billion

3.Washington-Baltimore-Arlington, DC-MD-VA-WV-PA CSA $629.224 Billion
Baltimore-Towson, MD Metro Area $157.260 Billion
California-Lexington Park, MD Metro Area $5.249 Billion
Chambersburg-Waynesboro, PA Metro Area $4.282 Billion
Hagerstown-Martinsburg, MD-VA Metro Area $8.295 Billion
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV Metro Area $448.741 Billion
Winchester, VA-WV Metro Area $5.397 Billion

4. San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA $606.743 Billion
Napa, CA Metro Area $7.372 Billion
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA Metro Area $360.495 Billion
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA Metro Area $173.908 Billion
Santa Cruz-Watsonville, CA Metro Area $20.325 Billion
Santa Rosa-Petaluma, CA Metro Area $9.574 Billion
Stockton-Lodi, CA Metro Area $20.390 Billion
Vallejo-Fairfield, CA Metro Area $14.679 Billion

5. Chicago-Naperville, IL-IN-WI CSA $578.275 Billion
Chicago-Naperville-Joliet, IL-IN-WI Metro Area $571.008 Billion
Kankakee-Bradley, IL Metro Area $3.481 Billion
Michigan City-La Porte, IN Metro Area $3.786 Billion

6. Boston-Worcester-Providence, MA-RI-NH CSA $470.343 Billion
Barnstable Town, MA Metro Area$ 8.595 Billion
Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH Metro Area $336.232 Billion
Manchester-Nashua, NH Metro Area $22.160 Billion
Providence-New Bedford-Fall River, RI-MA Metro Area $69.530 Billion
Worcester, MA Metro Area $33.826 Billion

7. Houston-The Woodlands, TX CSA $449.439 Billion
Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX Metro Area $449.439 Billion

8. Dallas-Fort Worth, TX-OKCSA $424.018 Billion
Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX Metro Area $420.340 Billion
Sherman-Denison, TX Metro Area $3.678 Billion

9. Philadelphia-Reading-Camden, PA-NJ-DE-MD CSA $408.170 Billion
Atlantic City-Hammonton, NJ Metro Area $13.185 Billion
Dover, DE Metro Area $6.336 Billion
Ocean City, NJ Metro Area $4.273 Billion
Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD Metro Area $364.009 Billion
Reading, PA Metro Area $15.208 BillionVineland-Millville-Bridgeton, NJ Metro Area $5.159 Billion

10. Atlanta-Athens/Clarke County-Sandy Springs, GA-AL CSA $301.428 Billion
Athens-Clarke County, GA Metro Area $6.839 Billion
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA Metro Area $294.589 Billion

11. Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Port St Lucie, FL CSA $289.964 Billion
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-West Palm Beach, FL Metro Area $274.105 Billion
Port St Lucie, Fl Metro Area $11.500 Billion
Sebastian-Vero Beach, FL Metro Area $4.359 Billion

12. Seattle-Tacoma, WA CSA $282.741 Billion
Bremerton-Silverdale, WA Metro Area$9.132 Billion
Mount Vernon-Anacortes, WA MetroArea $5.511 Billion
Olympia-Tumwater, WA Metro Area $9.279 Billion
Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA MetroArea $258.819 Billion

13. Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor, MI CSA $243.551 Billion
Ann Arbor, MI Metro Area $19.310Billion
Detroit-Warren-Dearborn, MI MetroArea $208.379 Billion
Flint, MI Metro Area $11.713Billion
Monroe, MI Metro Area $4.149Billion

14. Minneapolis-St Paul, MN-WI CSA$228.301 Billion
Minneapolis-St Paul-Bloomington,MN-WI Metro Area $220.167 Billion
St Cloud, MN Metro Area $8.134 Billion

15. Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ MSA $201.653 Billion

16. Denver-Aurora, CO CSA $196.187 Billion
Boulder, CO Metro Area $20.332Billion
Denver-Aurora-Lakewood, CO MetroArea $167.886 Billion
Greeley, CO Metro Area $7.969Billion

17. San Diego-Carlsbad, CA MSA $ $177.410 Billion

Cleveland-Akron-Canton, OH CSA $155.107 Billion
Akron, OH Metro Area $29.466Billion
Canton-Massilon, OH Metro Area $14.044 Billion
Cleveland-Elyria, OH Metro Area $111.597 Billion

Top 17 by Percentage Change
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland +6.6%
Seattle-Tacoma +5.7%
Houston-The Woodlands +5.6%
Minneapolis-St Paul +5.5%
Dallas-Ft Worth +$5.4%
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Port St Lucie +4.7%
San Diego-Carlsbad +4.7%
Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale +4.6%
Los Angeles-Long Beach +4.3%
Denver-Aurora +4.2%
Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor +4.2%
Atlanta-Athens/Clarke County-Sandy Springs +4.1%
Chicago-Naperville +4.1%
Boston-Worcester-Providence +3.7%
Philadelphia-Reading-Camden +3.2%
Washington-Baltimore-Arlington +2.9%
New York-Newark +2.7%

Top 17 by Numerical GDP Growth
New York-Newark +$41.500 Billion
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland +$38.115 Billion
Los Angeles-Long Beach +$38.054 Billion
Houston-The Woodlands +$24.138 Billion
Chicago-Naperville +$22.835 Billion
Dallas-Ft Worth +$21.807 Billion
Washington-Baltimore-Arlington +$18.194 Billion
Boston-Worcester-Providence +$16.367 Billion
Seattle-Tacoma +$15.389 Billion
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Port St Lucie +$13.939 Billion
Philadelphia-Reading-Camden +$12.866 Billion
Atlanta-Athens/Clarke County-Sandy Springs +12.288 Billion
Minneapolis-St Paul +$12.086
Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor +$10.044 Billion
Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale +$9.332 Billion
San Diego-Carlsbad +$7.522 Billion
Denver-Aurora +$7.494 Billion

1. New York-Newark, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA
2012 $1.550 Trillion
2011 $1.508 Trillion
Numerical GDP Change: +$41.5 Billion
Percentage Change: +2.7

2. Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA CSA
2012 GDP $918.834 Billion
2011 GDP $880.780 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$38.054 Billion
Percentage Change: +4.3%

3. Washington-Baltimore-Arlington, DC-MD-VA-WV-PA CSA
2012 GDP $629.224 Billion
2011 GDP $611.030 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$18.194 Billion
Percentage Change: +2.9%

4. San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA
2012 GDP $606.743 Billion
2011 GDP $568.628 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$38.115 Billion
Percentage Change: +6.6%

5. Chicago-Naperville, IL-IN-WI CSA
2012 GDP $578.275 Billion
2011 GDP $555.440 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$22.835 Billion
Percentage Change: +4.1%

6. Boston-Worcester-Providence, MA-RI-NH CSA
2012 GDP $470.343 Billion
2011 GDP $453.976 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$16.367 Billion
Percentage Change: +3.7%

7. Houston-The Woodlands, TX CSA
2012 GDP $449.439 Billion
2011 GDP $425.301 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$24.138 Billion
Percentage Change: +5.6%

8. Dallas-Fort Worth, TX-OK CSA
2012 GDP $424.018 Billion
2011 GDP $402.211 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$21.807 Billion
Percentage Change: +5.4%

9. Philadelphia-Reading-Camden, PA-NJ-DE-MD CSA
2012 GDP $408.170 Billion
2011 GDP $395.304 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$12.866 Billion
Percentage Change: +3.2%

10. Atlanta-Athens/Clarke County-Sandy Springs, GA-AL CSA
2012 GDP $301.428 Billion
2011 GDP $289.140 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$12.288 Billion
Percentage Change: +4.1%

11. Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Port St Lucie, FL CSA
2012 GDP $289.964 Billion
2011 GDP $276.025 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$13.939 Billion
Percentage Change: +4.7%

12. Seattle-Tacoma, WA CSA
2012 GDP $282.741 Billion
2011 GDP $267.352 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$15.389 Billion
Percentage Change: +5.7%

13. Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor, MI CSA
2012 GDP $243.551 Billion
2011 GDP $233.507 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$10.044 Billion
Percentage Change: +4.2%

14. Minneapolis-St Paul, MN-WI CSA
2012 GDP $228.301 Billion
2011 GDP $216.215 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$12.086 Billion
Percentage Change: +5.5%

15. Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ MSA
2012 GDP $201.653 Billion
2011 GDP $192.321 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$9.332 Billion
Percentage Change: +4.6%

16. Denver-Aurora, CO CSA
2012 GDP $196.187 Billion
2011 GDP $188.693 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: +$7.494 Billion
Percentage Change: +4.2%

17. San Diego-Carlsbad, CA MSA
2012 GDP $177.410 Billion
2011 GDP $169.888 Billion
Numerical GDP Change: $7.522 Billion
Percentage Change: +4.7%

Please check my work on your CSA/MSA to ensure accuracy:
News Release: GDP by Metropolitan Area, Advance 2012, and Revised 2001–2011

*I would greatly appreciate it if a Mod could copy the data in this post and paste on to the 1st post and delete the old data. Please

[Andy]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

12. Seattle-Tacoma, WA CSA $273.462 Billion
Bremerton-Silverdale, WA Metro Area$9.132 Billion
Mount Vernon-Anacortes, WA MetroArea $5.511 Billion
Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA MetroArea $258.819 Billion

You are missing the Olympia MSA portion of the Seattle-Tacoma-Olympia CSA.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Andy

You are missing the Olympia MSA portion of the Seattle-Tacoma-Olympia CSA.

okay it's official, I was smoking crack.

Thank you and I will correct it right away.

edit: Seattle is fixed in post 45

[grapico]

damn. I was thinking Chicago lost the 3 spot bc of recession stuff but it looks like dc and sf msa continue to pull away from them

[barneyg]

Originally Posted by gwillyfromphilly

The Los Angeles CSA will most likely surpass the New York CSA in population and GDP as well in the next 20 years if Philly isn't added to the New York CSA. So even from a conspiracy perspective it makes a lot of sense.

20 years? No. More like 60, if 2010-2012 CSA population growth rates are to be sustained forever..

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by Vlajos

People really need to look at the real GDP numbers. Real GDP is adjusted for inflation so real GDP is a measure of activity in the economy (not price increases which provide no utility). The vast majority of economists agree that real GDP is a better measure of the economy than nominal GDP. Here are real GDP growth rates for LA and NY MSAs:

Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim, CA - 2010 1.1%, 2011 1.2%, 2012 3.1% (three year average 1.8%)
New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA - 2010 3.6%, 2011 1.1%, 2012 1.4% (three year average 2.0%)

Wow, I got LA very wrong, my apologies. LA had negative growth in 2010. Revised real GDP numbers are:

Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim, CA - 2010 -1.1%, 2011 1.2%, 2012 3.1% (three year average 1.1%)
New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA - 2010 3.6%, 2011 1.1%, 2012 1.4% (three year average 2.0%)