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I'd say the responses to the statement are even more revealing. It's a mall, folks.
The Farmer's Market predates the very conception of "stip mall" by many decades. Regardless, I don't care how you characterize the place. It is an icon, making it germane to the topic.
The east side closer to downtown gets pretty sketchy.
Can you provide an intersection?
I guess compared to north of Sunset the east side of BH is "sketchy". But no one in the right mind would call any areas of Beverly Hills truly sketchy. Less desirable, sure. But sketchy? Not so much.
No, you just made that up. Brooklyn is better known by everyone.
Nope, you already conceded that Brooklyn is better known to hipsters on Berlin, which is 100% correct.
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No, Brooklyn and NYC are known by all, and Malibu known by few.
New York is known by most, Brooklyn is far less known because it''s image is largely unintetesting to demographic groups that dominate the attention of media outlets, quite frankly.
Malibu's image is far easier for the average person to describe.
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No, none of these places are known as distinct places, and Hollywood and Beverly Hills are much better known than Malibu.
Yes, they all have distinct, powerful images that are far more relevant to most people than Brooklyn which ismuch less known.
Brooklyn peaked in importance and noteriety prior to WW2 and then steadily declined in importance for about 50 years, during which Hollywood and Beverly Hills far surpassed Brooklyn and other depressed urban areas as far as international noteriety.
I agree that Malibu is less known than the others, but the mental image of Malibu is still more clear cut and precise.
Ask a stranger abroad to describe Malibu and beaches, celebrities and wealth are very likely top responses.
Ask a stranger abroad to describe Brooklyn and most likely you'll get a blank stare.
Not sure what exactly people mean by iconic, but I do like LA much more.
Yes NYC has lot if symbols like Wall St, Statue of Liberty etc. but those are all negative symbols to me: Wall St - a bunch of greedy morons making billions out of fresh air by sucking blood out of working class, the statue of liberty - meaningless and tasteless, freedom from what and for whom, and why so ugly??
Outside of Manhattan which is built for super rich by super rich NYC is a stinking dump.
You want to get a feel of real NYC - take a trip in its subway full of rats and homeless.
NYC does have a great opera, but just because non-american talents sing there. Outside of Metropolitan museums suck there. Good restaurants are hard to come by and super expensive.
Actually even if thats the thrust of what most people around the world know about Malibu, that's more than what most people around the world know about Brooklyn.
Malibu is on tv around the world, Malibu is often referred to in entertainment related news and media programs around the world.
By contrast, there isnt even a reason for Brookyn to be mentioned the same way, is there?
I cannot believe that people have spent 10 pages debating some nut job whether a beach suburb of LA whose biggest claim to fame is that a crappy car was named after it is more renowned than one of the most iconic urban brands in the western world with an almost 400 year history. Only on City Data.
I cannot believe that people have spent 10 pages debating some nut job whether a beach suburb of LA whose biggest claim to fame is that a crappy car was named after it is more renowned than one of the most iconic urban brands in the western world with an almost 400 year history. Only on City Data.
LOL@ the delusion that Brooklyn is one of the most iconic urban brands in the world.
Perhaps to the Northeastern US, but no one abroad, where they have urban areas that thrash Brooklyn look to Brooklyn as iconiic when it comes to being urban. Why would they when Manhattan is the only borough people care about.How laughable to even suggest such a preposterously delusional notion.
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