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View Poll Results: Which of these cities is best for nature?
NYC 11 11.11%
Chicago 6 6.06%
DC 9 9.09%
Boston 22 22.22%
Detroit 4 4.04%
Minneapolis 38 38.38%
Other 9 9.09%
Voters: 99. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-06-2013, 09:08 AM
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On the plus side, Lake Michigan is easier (and safer) to swim than an ocean beach and still has some waves. Though for NYC, one can get the same effect in a Long Island Sound beach. Farm country of upstate NY is more attractive than Illinois farm country, which is flat and doesn't have much woods to break up the farm country. New England has much more forests than farms, and is sometimes a bit monotonous.

Do people agree with my statement that the White Mountains make Boston the best of the ones listed?
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:22 AM
 
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On the plus side, Lake Michigan is easier (and safer) to swim than an ocean beach and still has some waves.
WRONG....it is much easier to swim in saltwater then in fresh water. Your body is lighter in saltwater.....

More ignorance from the saltwater team
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:24 AM
 
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The waves are generally pretty calm to non existent, less than 1' even in strong winds. For instance right now

Water Temperature: 48.2°
Wave Height: 0.5'
Wind: SSW at 21mph
Wind Gusts: 25mph

Though in storms they can become quite violent, but you don't want to swim in that... It's pretty rare to have say 3-4 foot rolling ocean style waves.

Here is a video of Chicago lakefront and beaches that I shot... it's indeed very pretty.

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Old 11-06-2013, 09:25 AM
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WRONG....it is much easier to swim in saltwater then in fresh water. Your body is lighter in saltwater.....

More ignorance from the saltwater team
Try thinking about other effets? It's harder to swim when large waves are thrashing you, the surf is rough.
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:29 AM
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The waves are generally pretty calm to non existent, less than 1' even in strong winds. For instance right now

Water Temperature: 48.2°
Wave Height: 0.5'
Wind: SSW at 21mph
Wind Gusts: 25mph

Though in storms they can become quite violent, but you don't want to swim in that... It's pretty rare to have say 3-4 foot rolling ocean style waves.
right now, NYC ocean waves are about the same height.

Water Temperature: 55-58°F
Wave Height: 0-1' (out east at Montauk it's 2')
Wind: 8 knots (10 mph?)

Rockaway Beach (90th) - Surf Report and HD Surf Cam | SURFLINE.COM

Beach view, Brooklyn. Looks like few waves.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=brigh...,82.7,,0,-5.26
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:32 AM
 
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right now, NYC ocean waves are about the same height.

Water Temperature: 55-58°F
Wave Height: 0-1' (out east at Montauk it's 2')
Wind: 8 knots (10 mph?)

Rockaway Beach (90th) - Surf Report and HD Surf Cam | SURFLINE.COM

Beach view, Brooklyn. Looks like few waves.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=brigh...,82.7,,0,-5.26

Yes but glancing around the region there are quite a few in the 2-3' range.
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:39 AM
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Yes but glancing around the region there are quite a few in the 2-3' range.
Of course, my point was the ocean can be as calm as Lake Michigan at times. And at other times…

Hurricane Sandy Sets Wave Height Record | Extreme Weather | LiveScience

Sandy produced at 32.5 foot wave 15 miles offshore. And 13.9 feet of storm surge in Lower Manhattan, though that's not really a wave. Not too many other downtowns have been flooded with storm surge…Some skyscrapers got 4-5+ feet of saltwater in them.
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Yep, agree for sure.
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Old 11-06-2013, 10:01 AM
 
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Do people agree with my statement that the White Mountains make Boston the best of the ones listed?
Yes, I do. I honestly think Minneapolis is being trumped up here. I think:

NYC~Boston > DC > Minneapolis > Chicago ~ Detroit

None of the Midwestern cities are even close to being within spitting distance of anything remotely resembling a mountain. NYC and Boston are at least in proximity of the Adirondacks, the Berkshires and the White Mts and are on the ocean. DC has tons of forest area and national parks in the city and in proximity of the area. Minneapolis has a bunch of smaller lakes, rivers, and is within proximity to forests to the north, but there's a lot of blah and bland farmland right in the area to the south and southwest. Chicago has Lake Michigan and some forest preserves, but the pretty parts of IL are mostly in the NW and far down south. Similar can be said about Detroit that is said about Chicago, except the directionality and lakes are different.
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Old 11-06-2013, 10:06 AM
 
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Yes, I do. I honestly think Minneapolis is being trumped up here. I think:

NYC~Boston > DC > Minneapolis > Chicago ~ Detroit

None of the Midwestern cities are even close to being within spitting distance of anything remotely resembling a mountain. NYC and Boston are at least in proximity of the Adirondacks, the Berkshires and the White Mts. DC has tons of forest area and national parks in the city and in proximity of the area. Minneapolis has a bunch of smaller lakes, rivers, and is within proximity to forests to the north, but there's a lot of blah and bland farmland right in the area to the south and southwest. Chicago has Lake Michigan and some forest preserves, but the pretty parts of IL are mostly in the NW and far down south. Similar can be said about Detroit that is said about Chicago, except the directionality and lakes are different.
Yeah, I would go with that, my initial post was more considering just the city propers. DC is close to Shenandoah and WV mountains at their peaks approaching 5000 and 3000 foot elevation and prominence respectively. NYC and Boston hit better and prettier elevation faster. What the greater New England area lacks is mind blowing vistas like Yosemite, Tahoe, Big Sur, Mt Shasta, etc. A lot of the other nature would fit in pretty nicely.
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