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Neyland Stadium, where the University of Tennessee plays football, has a capacity of 101,915.
Kenan Memorial Stadium, where UNC plays football, and Carter-Finley Stadium, where NC State plays football, (the two largest collegiate football programs in the state) have respective capacities of 51,000 and 56,919.
Additionally, UTenn has a student enrollment of 28,321 while UNC has an enrollment of 29,469, so Tennessee isn't a bigger school overall.
If you're familiar with the South as a region, you know how important College Football is to Southern Culture and Identity.
That's incorrect. Total enrollment for the 2022 school year was 33,805 for UT while undergraduate enrollment was 27,039.
Rock 'n roll, blues, soul, BBQ, Pentecostalism, the mighty Mississippi, Civil Rights history, etc.--to me, the Southernness is thick in the air in Memphis. It's like the epitome of an urbanized version of the traditional rural South IMO.
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About the same, both feel like the Mid south. Big fast growing cities like Nashville and Charlotte are sprawling and full of Transplants , either from the West coast, Midwest or Northeast. Mountain tourist areas are similar. The rural country side is what it is in both states. Tennessee doesn't have an answer to N Carolina's Coastal area but all in all one is really no southern than the other. I will say they are both not Deep south in nature by any mean but Memphis feels like it could be a Big Deep South City.
This^. Eastern North Carolina feels Deep South to me as well. The accents lacked twang but had significant drawl like Memphis. I also notice the area has much more agrarian economy than Tennessee as a whole. Tennessee looks and feels more rough around the edges, especially in its major cities, compared to North Carolina.
Wait, so there are 130,000 people in the Triangle attending football games on any given Saturday in the Fall, and that’s used to show the state doesn’t like football? We have more FBS schools in one area than most anywhere else in the country, and I think both ECU and App State lead their conferences in attendance.
Sure people in NC like football. However, the perception of it is that it is more of a basketball state (UNC and Duke in particular).
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That's incorrect. Total enrollment for the 2022 school year was 33,805 for UT while undergraduate enrollment was 27,039.
Google failed me. Still, it is not considerably larger than UNC considering that its stadium is twice as large (for instance, it's not like comparing its student body to say, Duke which is much smaller).
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Right?!
While the overall obsession with "southerness" and the gatekeeping of it in both a positive and negative connotation is one of the most eye-roll worthy trends in this section of C-D regardless....
That was definitely the most ridiculous "hard evidence" attempt I've seen.
What's ridiculous about it?
I could've just made a blanket statement saying that NC cares more about basketball than football.
Showing the size of the stadiums at least indicates how much more important football is in Tennessee than it is in NC.
Edit: I will say that NC schools have whooped SEC schools butts as of late in football (UNC whipped SCAr, App State whooped Texas A&M).
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Modern Memphis realistically is more about Fed Ex, St Jude, local universities, medical schools, hospitals, etc. Down in DeSoto County, Mississippi are big Amazon, Google, and Volvo facilities among many others.
I will say that downtown Memphis has crossed a threshold and is starting to feel like a real city. There is a new parking garage on Beale Street that sits right at the center.
Within two blocks are Beale Street, South Main district, Fed Ex Forum, the Orpheum, Tom Lee Park on the river (newly done and now very beautiful), Main Street pedestrian mall, the Peabody, the baseball stadium, and nearby Bass Pro at the Pyramid, Mud Island/ Harbor Town, and the Hernando DeSoto Bridge which is lighted up at night.
You've posted this in a number of places. This isn't true for the majority of the population. Memphis is attempting to revitalize, but only 30,000 people work at fedex (and not all of these are tech related, by any means). The metro area has a much bigger population than that. What mutiny said is correct about the city.
Sure people in NC like football. However, the perception of it is that it is more of a basketball state (UNC and Duke in particular).
Google failed me. Still, it is not considerably larger than UNC considering that its stadium is twice as large (for instance, it's not like comparing its student body to say, Duke which is much smaller).
What's ridiculous about it?
I could've just made a blanket statement saying that NC cares more about basketball than football.
Showing the size of the stadiums at least indicates how much more important football is in Tennessee than it is in NC.
Edit: I will say that NC schools have whooped SEC schools butts as of late in football (UNC whipped SCAr, App State whooped Texas A&M).
There are 3 power conference schools within 20 miles of one another (and 4 in the state). There are only two in the entirety of the state of Tennessee.
Mississippi is unquestionably a Southern state and for most of its time both its SEC schools competed in 40-50,000 sized stadiums, only upgrading in recent years to their current 60,000 thresholds. Even though NC (and Kentucky for that matter) is a state that does unquestionably better at basketball, they put a lot of resources into football (at least the state schools do). Would likely do better if there were only 2 power conference schools competing for local talent like is found in SC, Tennessee, Georgia.
Neyland Stadium, where the University of Tennessee plays football, has a capacity of 101,915.
Kenan Memorial Stadium, where UNC plays football, and Carter-Finley Stadium, where NC State plays football, (the two largest collegiate football programs in the state) have respective capacities of 51,000 and 56,919.
Additionally, UTenn has a student enrollment of 28,321 while UNC has an enrollment of 29,469, so Tennessee isn't a bigger school overall.
If you're familiar with the South as a region, you know how important College Football is to Southern Culture and Identity.
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Switching gears, hehe, North Carolina does like nascar more
One thing to consider when talking about UT-K's size (UT = University of Texas).. vs UNC-CH... UT-K is both the Flagship and the Land Grant school in TN. NC has a separate flagship and land grant institution. NC State has about 36,000 students. UNC-CH would probably have 50,000 students (and a much bigger football stadium) if it were the land grant as well.
Obviously NC produces more high school football players, and I'm pretty sure that they produce more top end hs talent (4 and 5 Star). If UT-Knoxville had to rely on in-state talent through the years... they would be like a slightly better version of UK in football.
Memphis certainly has the feel of the deep south sure, but that doesn't necessarily trump the the 'other' southern feel of the other end of the state, football, nascar, moonshine, mountains and hollers, and bluegrass.
Maybe it would be more accurate to say that TN has more layers or diversity to it's southern feel.
For sure. Both the urban Deep South and the urban Appalachian South are sufficiently represented in TN.
Both of these Upper South states are about equal geographically, but which one is more "southern" culturally?
North Carolina and Tennessee are both core states and cultural icons of the American South.
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