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Old 09-19-2014, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Watching half my country turn into Gilead
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United States population centers versus the states of the United States (all places over $150 Billion):
- California: $2.202 Trillion
- New York's Tri-State Area: $1.683 Trillion
- Texas: $1.532 Trillion
- New York (state): $1.311 Trillion
- Greater Los Angeles: $999.661 Billion
- Florida: $800.492 Billion
- Illinois: $720.692 Billion
- Greater Bay Area: $664.687 Billion
- Greater Washington and Baltimore: $657.039 Billion
- Pennsylvania: $644.915 Billion
- Chicagoland: $597.805 Billion
- Ohio: $565.272 Billion
- New Jersey: $543.071 Billion
- Greater Houston: $517.367 Billion
- Greater Boston: $514.586 Billion
- North Carolina: $471.365 Billion
- Georgia: $454.532 Billion
- Virginia: $454.585 Billion
- Greater Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex: $451.436 Billion
- Massachusetts: $446.323 Billion
- Michigan: $432.573 Billion
- Delaware Valley Area: $429.838 Billion
- Washington (state): $408.049
- Maryland: $342.382 Billion
- Indiana: $317.102 Billion
- Greater Atlanta: $314.759 Billion
- Minnesota: $312.081 Billions
- Pudget Sound Region: $309.577 Billion
- Southeast Florida Metropolis: $297.071 Billion
- Colorado: $294.443 Billion
- Tennessee: $287.633 Billion
- Wisconsin: $282.486 Billion
- Arizona: $279.024 Billion
- Missouri: $276.345 Billion
- Greater Detroit: $262.166 Billion
- Louisiana: $253.576 Billion
- Connecticut: $249.251 Billion
- Twin Cities Area: $236.389 Billion
- Oregon: $219.590 Billion
- Greater Denver: $209.648 Billion
- Greater Phoenix: $209.523 Billion
- Greater San Diego: $197.886 Billion
- Alabama: $193.566 Billion
- Greater Portland: $189.268 Billion
- South Carolina: $183.561 Billion
- Kentucky: $183.373 Billion
- Oklahoma: $182.086 Billion
- Greater Cleveland: $170.063 Billion

Gross Domestic Product's for both states and combined statistical areas is current 2013. Combined Statistical Areas are underlined, states are not.
GA and VA are virtually tied.

Also, amazing how certain CSAs dominate their states' GDP. What would Massachusetts look like without greater Boston? Would have to exclude the portion from other states, so a negative GDP is impossible--but MA would probably barely have 10% of its current total...
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Old 09-19-2014, 10:46 AM
 
Location: LoS ScAnDaLoUs KiLLa CaLI
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The most bizarre aspect of Combined Statistical Areas on C-D is the repetitive, bitter insistence by some extremely jealous and obscenely delusional individuals that there is some concerted effort to prop up some areas over others. It's absolutely hilarious.

Just to remind those who continue to get amnesia:

MSA: 25% or more workers commute from one county to another

CSA: 15%-24.99% or more workers commute from one MSA to the core counties of another.

The only reason bea.gov doesnt report CSA GDP is because they dont release Micro Area GDPs, but we can still add up the totala for the component MSAs, as Micro Area data doesnt really affect the total that much.

In any event, Ive been reading the whiners' complaints for like five years now and dont even pay attention to them anymore.
Kind of like the idea of the Bay Area being in 3rd place, no?
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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GA and VA are virtually tied.

Also, amazing how certain CSAs dominate their states' GDP. What would Massachusetts look like without greater Boston? Would have to exclude the portion from other states, so a negative GDP is impossible--but MA would probably barely have 10% of its current total...
Great point.

In the case of California, without the LA CSA, the GDP is still about $1.3 Trillion.
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:17 AM
 
Location: LoS ScAnDaLoUs KiLLa CaLI
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I wonder if OP would still use CSA numbers if it barely benefitted the Bay Area. The Bay Area and maybe DC-Baltimore are the only areas that become much much larger as a CSA than as an MSA.
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:36 AM
 
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Great point.

In the case of California, without the LA CSA, the GDP is still about $1.3 Trillion.
Well, yeah, California is massive in size. It's much bigger than the entire Northeast Corridor, which has like twice the economy of CA.

California and Texas are absolutely enormous states. It's not really reasonable to do a state-to-state comparison with these two states that happen to be huge in both population and geography.
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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NYC is on a level of its own. LA next tier then everyone else.
Yes, I am glad that LA has finally surpassed 1T
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Old 09-19-2014, 12:00 PM
 
Location: The City
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Originally Posted by Red John View Post
United States population centers versus the states of the United States (all places over $150 Billion):
- California: $2.202 Trillion
- New York's Tri-State Area: $1.683 Trillion
- Texas: $1.532 Trillion
- New York (state): $1.311 Trillion
- Greater Los Angeles: $999.661 Billion
- Florida: $800.492 Billion
- Illinois: $720.692 Billion
- Greater Bay Area: $664.687 Billion
- Greater Washington and Baltimore: $657.039 Billion
- Pennsylvania: $644.915 Billion
- Chicagoland: $597.805 Billion
- Ohio: $565.272 Billion
- New Jersey: $543.071 Billion
- Greater Houston: $517.367 Billion
- Greater Boston: $514.586 Billion
- North Carolina: $471.365 Billion
- Georgia: $454.532 Billion
- Virginia: $454.585 Billion
- Greater Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex: $451.436 Billion
- Massachusetts: $446.323 Billion
- Michigan: $432.573 Billion
- Delaware Valley Area: $429.838 Billion
- Washington (state): $408.049
- Maryland: $342.382 Billion
- Indiana: $317.102 Billion
- Greater Atlanta: $314.759 Billion
- Minnesota: $312.081 Billions
- Pudget Sound Region: $309.577 Billion
- Southeast Florida Metropolis: $297.071 Billion
- Colorado: $294.443 Billion
- Tennessee: $287.633 Billion
- Wisconsin: $282.486 Billion
- Arizona: $279.024 Billion
- Missouri: $276.345 Billion
- Greater Detroit: $262.166 Billion
- Louisiana: $253.576 Billion
- Connecticut: $249.251 Billion
- Twin Cities Area: $236.389 Billion
- Oregon: $219.590 Billion
- Greater Denver: $209.648 Billion
- Greater Phoenix: $209.523 Billion
- Greater San Diego: $197.886 Billion
- Alabama: $193.566 Billion
- Greater Portland: $189.268 Billion
- South Carolina: $183.561 Billion
- Kentucky: $183.373 Billion
- Oklahoma: $182.086 Billion
- Greater Cleveland: $170.063 Billion

Gross Domestic Product's for both states and combined statistical areas is current 2013. Combined Statistical Areas are underlined, states are not.

On the above you used Delaware Valley, a common reference But most definitions of the De Valley include additional areas like Trenton/Mercer County NJ and even sometimes Allentown etc which are now part of the NYC CSA with those the number is closer to 500B and more mirrors the Philly DMA market which as a media market are part of Philly by CSA are part of NYC
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Old 09-19-2014, 12:12 PM
 
Location: LoS ScAnDaLoUs KiLLa CaLI
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Yes, I am glad that LA has finally surpassed 1T
You mean Los Angeles CSA, which includes way more than LA.

Hey, so please point to me where in the BEA link where the CSA numbers are? I keep trying to look but can't find them.
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Old 09-19-2014, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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On the above you used Delaware Valley, a common reference But most definitions of the De Valley include additional areas like Trenton/Mercer County NJ and even sometimes Allentown etc which are now part of the NYC CSA with those the number is closer to 500B and more mirrors the Philly DMA market which as a media market are part of Philly by CSA are part of NYC
Yes, NY now includes Trenton and Allentown. It is quite the massive area.
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Old 09-19-2014, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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You mean Los Angeles CSA, which includes way more than LA. .
You could say that about every CSA on this list
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