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Old 09-17-2014, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I never got a response to this...was the Seattle GDP listed incorrectly or is there a section of the original link which I misread/missed?
I didnt read your original query.

Yes, it appears I goofed. Thx for catching that.

Seattle MSA $284.967 Billion
Olympia MSA $9.769 Billion
Bremerton MSA $9.428 Billion
Mt Vernon MSA $5.413 Billion

Seattle CSA Total: $309.577 Billion
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Old 09-17-2014, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR -> Rocky River, OH
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Seattle is the the shining star with these new numbers.
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Old 09-17-2014, 11:50 AM
 
Location: LoS ScAnDaLoUs KiLLa CaLI
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Not true. If you add up the various MSAs within the CSA, you get the CSA totals.

Micropolitan areas are not typically part of CSAs, and in any case, are so tiny as to not make a meaningful difference.
Yeah, but where in this source are CSA numbers given? And even if the micro areas are tiny, they still add numbers.
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Old 09-17-2014, 11:51 AM
 
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Yeah, but where in this source are CSA numbers given? And even if the micro areas are tiny, they still add numbers.
BEA doesn't provide GDP by CSA.
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Old 09-17-2014, 11:55 AM
 
Location: LoS ScAnDaLoUs KiLLa CaLI
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BEA doesn't provide GDP by CSA.
Exactly. That's why this thread should be deleted. Imagine we were in school and you misquote a source, you'd get an F. The link is there for everyone to see.

The whole premise of this thread is a huge gigantic fallacy.
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Old 09-17-2014, 11:57 AM
 
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Exactly. That's why this thread should be deleted. Imagine we were in school and you misquote a source, you'd get an F. The link is there for everyone to see.

The whole premise of this thread is a huge gigantic fallacy.
I agree with you.
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Old 09-17-2014, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Seattle is the the shining star with these new numbers.
Yes, Seattle is doing very well versus some other CSAs that are far larger.

Other areas like Chicago and Philadelphia appear to be getting passed up.
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Old 09-17-2014, 12:01 PM
 
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*Micropolitan Area GDPs are not published.
Why bother posting numbers for Combined Statistical Areas if not all information for Micropolitan Areas hasn't been published?
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Old 09-17-2014, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Not sure of the methodology, but do they include all of the oil from the gulf into Houston's GDP or something? Otherwise Houston's numbers make it top5 richest places on the planet, above Switzerland, Bay Area, NYC, etc... For example, the difference between Houston and Dallas is like $10,000 per capita, which is crazy.
No - and if that were the case, that raw mineral wealth would probably flow to New Orleans, as it is closer geographically to the bulk of Gulf Of Mexico assets than Houston. (There is a component in the GDP for the value-add of refined hydrocarbons as exports, but this is no different than having refineries in New Jersey or Los Angeles, really). Roughly 400 million barrels of oil were pumped out of the US GoM in 2013 - that's roughly $40 billion net, which even before slicing it into fractions could not account for the outsized-GDP we are discussing.

It's a really simple concept really (which I've mentioned before) - Houston is the preponderant global city for people who work in the energy industry (akin to the Bay Area's centrality in "tech"). Those people, in addition to men with wrenches and hardhats, include untold thousands of scientists, engineers, seismologists, executives, program managers, researchers, investment bankers, consultants, attorneys, entrepreneurs and the ecosystem around them. Lots of valuable "stuff" is built there (mainly precision machinery used in the industry) and even more products and processes are designed there. Much like I-phones aren't physically built in Silicon Valley, Oil is not physically drilled in Houston. The money is often behind the product.

It's nothing remarkable really - just another sunbelt city that happens to have a huge economic edge (the oil industry). There are plenty of stats out there showing Houston has a very diverse economy, and nothing close to a majority of Houston's GDP output is "energy related", but let's be honest that people paid in petro-dollars put it over the edge.
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Old 09-17-2014, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Exactly. That's why this thread should be deleted. Imagine we were in school and you misquote a source, you'd get an F. The link is there for everyone to see.

The whole premise of this thread is a huge gigantic fallacy.
Nice (and relatively obvious) catch..... but I'm guessing people here really don't give a damn.
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