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Old 10-27-2014, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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OMG NO.... I was being FACETIOUS. I surely do not mean literally, Milwaukee should be added to CHICAGOLAND? LOL. It is because of .....I find it a bit amusing that under the term DELAWARE VALLEY IS VIRTUALLY ALL OF NEW JERSEY? WHY NOT ADD DELAWARE TOO?
Yes I surely acknowledge influence of Philly through NJ. But 60+miles to the Jersey Shore AS PART OF THE DELAWARE RIVER VALLEY JUST PUSHES IT TOO FAR FOR ME.
Sure the whole Boston to DC , even to Raleigh Durham is or becoming one Big Megalopolis?

I said as in ALL the threads Philly is VS ????? Even when I thought ? Maybe it confined to... To define it under Delaware River Valley??? Might not have them this time CLAIM THE ATLANTIC SHORELINE TOO?
BUT I WAS RIGHT. As I said in a early post in this thread. They probably will and always do.

But maybe Chicago being much larger then Philly? If they go 60+miles to the Atlantic Shoreline????
Chicago can go 90 to Milwaukee. LOL It is valid then??

Guess when I am in say... Atlantic City I have to realize? Yes I really am in the Delaware River Valley

Philly does have its River frontage to promote Penn's Landing and its new River Boardwalk concept. But not good enough?
They promoted the Jersey Shore as theirs.
Again. You are so slow.
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Old 10-27-2014, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Again. You are so slow.
Lol.. I don't even get what the "arguement" was. That people from the Delaware Valley don't go to the Jersey Shore? Also the guy claiming that Chicagoland isn't vastly larger is really wrong. The Chicago Metro area is 10,000 Sq miles with 9 million plus people:

Chicago metropolitan area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Philadelphia is about 5,000 sq miles with just under 6 million people:

Delaware Valley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't know maybe he meant something else.

Anyway Big factors and differences:

Weather: Got to give to the Delaware Valley, a defined all 4 seasons, and really just not as brutal of a winter.

COL: Depends on where you live. Considering Chicago area is so vast, I am going to generalize and say that there is more of pretty much any level of housing for your income so I would go with Chicagoland and normal goods probably cost just a bit more on the east coast.

Scenery/Towns that make up the area: Delaware Valley has the edge in my book because of the older build. Most of the towns were established in the 18th and 19th centuries lending to a very historic look.

Classic Towns of Greater Philadelphia even own the URL classictowns

Schools: I am unfamiliar with the public schools in the suburbs of Chicago. I am going to assume it is a similar make up to Philly, where the urban schools struggle a great deal more than the suburb schools. Teachers are paid similarly in each state. The Delaware Valley has a wide vary of higher eduation options and attracts some of the best and brightest. Chicago holds its own near the top but there are just more options in the Philadelphia area. Not to beat a dead horse but a lot of the uber rich spend there college years in or around Philadelphia: 46 billionaires who went to Philadelphia-area colleges

There are a lot more things to compare but I need to get off of here ha.
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Old 10-27-2014, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Its so amusing to see sworn CSA haters suddenly become disciples of the concept.

LOL oh, and Atlantic City is a squalid dump with casinos. Nothing at all to brag about.
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Old 10-27-2014, 08:03 AM
 
Location: North by Northwest
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LOL oh, and Atlantic City is a squalid dump with casinos. Nothing at all to brag about.
But the rest of the South Jersey Shore is quite nice.
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Old 10-27-2014, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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I wasn't referring to population numbers AT ALL.

What I was referring to is distance to things. Chicagoland is already so large in square miles, and steeps wants to extend it further by adding more. LOL

Delaware Valley is less than half the size square mileage wise. Everything is much closer. You can drive to so much within an hour to an hour and a half.
The urban area reflects the size of the built environment meeting minimum density requirements. The vast majority of Chicagoland lives in this area. You are talking about the surrounding areas like most posters from Philadelphia do. What else do you have to talk about, really?
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Old 10-27-2014, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Lol.. I don't even get what the "arguement" was. That people from the Delaware Valley don't go to the Jersey Shore? Also the guy claiming that Chicagoland isn't vastly larger is really wrong. The Chicago Metro area is 10,000 Sq miles with 9 million plus people:

Chicago metropolitan area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Philadelphia is about 5,000 sq miles with just under 6 million people:

Delaware Valley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't know maybe he meant something else.
I was referring to the 'urbanized area'. If you don't know what that means I suggest you Google it.
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Old 10-27-2014, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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The urban area reflects the size of the built environment meeting minimum density requirements. The vast majority of Chicagoland lives in this area. You are talking about the surrounding areas like most posters from Philadelphia do. What else do you have to talk about, really?
This thread is Chicagoland vs The Delaware Valley. It is about the surrounding area? Is it not?

You're just salty that Philadelphia is in a superb location, and there is a crap ton to do. Outside of Chicago it's flat and downright boring.
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Old 10-27-2014, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Basically, just like in every thread. Chicago as a city is greater than Philadelphia as a city. But the Philadelphia metro area is greater than Chicagoland. And Philadelphia is in a better location than Chicago.

That's pretty much how every Chicago vs. Philadelphia thread goes.

Then Chicago posters come in and say no! We're in a better location, we have the lake, and dunes and Milwaukee. LOL
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Old 10-27-2014, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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You're just salty that Philadelphia is in a superb location, and there is a crap ton to do. Outside of Chicago it's flat and downright boring.
Wow, this really reads more like a childish retort than something an honest-to-god adult would write. I'm suprised "nanana boo boo" wasn't added at the end.

Philadelphia's location is fine, but not what I'd call superb (it's not even the best location in its region, and seriously, what metric is a 'crap ton' measured by anyway?). There are plenty of things to outside of Chicago. Oh wait, nevermind, those 6-7 million people living outside of the city are just sitting in their houses looking at farmland all day. I forgot.

At lot of these things are splitting hairs on personal preferences anyway and aren't actual measurable metrics. For example, I prefer to be closer to the city I like more, ergo I would choose Chicagoland. Does that mean either is objectively better? No. It's just my personal preference.
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Old 10-27-2014, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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I was referring to the 'urbanized area'. If you don't know what that means I suggest you Google it.
Nice I didn't know what you were talking about, I honestly didn't read all the comments from yesterday. Do i sense a little snarky-ness telling me to google it too? Lol. Does it even matter?(On a side note.. If you flipped the script and looked to a larger measurement such as the Urban Area Agglomerations its startling how many more cities there are in this part of the country and also a testament to how influential Chicago is for its own region. edit: I am not sure what exactly these measures are even attempting to measure

I will say that National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation and Home Alone always made me want to live in the Chicago area. I am happy winter is coming just so it is appropriate to view the movies once again. About the only family oriented thing I can even think of off the top of my head was the show "Boy meets World" which was set in the burbs around Philly.

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