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Atlanta itself is abnormally small population-wise. Virginia Beach is larger than it, and VB's metro area is 1/3rd the size.
That's because Virginia Beach is the result of a city-county consolidation and is larger than the city of Atlanta by over 100 square miles....not exactly the best comparison.
That's because Virginia Beach is the result of a city-county consolidation and is larger than the city of Atlanta by over 100 square miles....not exactly the best comparison.
And the vast majority of the population lives in the upper half of the City, and ALSO contains large state parks and large bodies of water within its borders (several rivers, bays, and a lagoon).
And the vast majority of the population lives in the upper half of the City, and ALSO contains large state parks and large bodies of water within its borders (several rivers, bays, and a lagoon).
And? Atlanta also has parks, industrial lands, and a huge mansion district with multi-acre lots and actual estates that lower the density level & limits fully developed residential areas. Atlanta also has a real, functioning urban core that's at the center of a region of 6 million. Virginia Beach is the opposite of this and a totally bad comparison, by any metric.
The point Mutiny77 makes stands. This is nothing unusual for an older city that anchors a major metro area. Boston & D.C. are very similar to Atlanta in this regard.
And the vast majority of the population lives in the upper half of the City, and ALSO contains large state parks and large bodies of water within its borders (several rivers, bays, and a lagoon).
I excluded water; VA Beach has 249 sq mi of land, whereas Atlanta has 132 sq mi of land. Seeing as though their municipal populations are virtually the same, this makes Atlanta, a relatively low-density city, quite a bit denser than VA Beach so I'm not really sure what your point is.
I hope the growth rates for Raleigh and Charlotte slow down, the last thing we need is more soulless suburban sprawl ripping apart the countryside destroying southern culture and replacing it with strip malls and apartment complexes.
On a side note, someone should make a Raleigh vs Nashville thread or Nashville vs Richmond.
Well if you think the growth in Raleigh & Charlotte need to slow down, then Atlanta does too then beause they are growing out of control as well too.
Not really, plus all of those cities have massive city limits. Atlanta's city limits are more akin to Northeast type city limits.
It's arbitrary. Atlanta's city proper population is smaller than Charlotte, but it's a lot more urban and walkable. It feels like a much bigger city and Atlanta has a lot more people within 2 miles of downtown than Charlotte does.
I agree that Atlanta is BY FAR larger than Charlotte, no doubt. They aren't even in same the field of play. And I know Charlotte has about 13,500 in uptown right now (http://files.charlottecentercity.org/SoCC2015.pdf). But what is Atlanta's current downtown population? I only found an article from 2012 saying 23,000 (Downtown Atlanta: The Heart Of The City - Georgia Trend), which is much closer to Charlotte than I expected. Clearly ATL has likely added since then. I'm specifically not including Midtown for ATL or SouthEnd for Charlotte here, just downtowns. But based on how much larger the ATL metro is in comparison to Charlotte (essentially 3x the size), I would have expected these numbers to be much farther apart.
I agree that Atlanta is BY FAR larger than Charlotte, no doubt. They aren't even in same the field of play. And I know Charlotte has about 13,500 in uptown right now (http://files.charlottecentercity.org/SoCC2015.pdf). But what is Atlanta's current downtown population? I only found an article from 2012 saying 23,000 (Downtown Atlanta: The Heart Of The City - Georgia Trend), which is much closer to Charlotte than I expected. Clearly ATL has likely added since then. I'm specifically not including Midtown for ATL or SouthEnd for Charlotte here, just downtowns. But based on how much larger the ATL metro is in comparison to Charlotte (essentially 3x the size), I would have expected these numbers to be much farther apart.
Midtown is much more residential than downtown and has gotten the lion's share of development within the core the past two decades or so, so I'm not surprised. It's possible than downtown has just as many or more GSU students residing there than permanent residents.
Midtown is much more residential than downtown and has gotten the lion's share of development within the core the past two decades or so, so I'm not surprised. It's possible than downtown has just as many or more GSU students residing there than permanent residents.
Ah okay, that makes sense then. Honestly I'm just relieved to see significant growth occurring for both in their respective downtown's. Bring on the density, we certainly could use some more!
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