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Old 06-26-2015, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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People are always hanging out in packs around those neighborhoods. It's like that in most low income neighborhoods in any city. Baltimore is the same way. Don't let it get hot outside.

By the way, I'm just talking about people hanging out in the streets. Not people walking through a neighborhood.
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Old 06-26-2015, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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People are always hanging out in packs around those neighborhoods. It's like that in most low income neighborhoods in any city. Baltimore is the same way. Don't let it get hot outside.
Those neighborhoods are slow, auto-centric (Congress Heights is anyway), and don't see that much pedestrian traffic. If you had said somewhere like Petworth or Brightwood, that would have made more sense, but Anacostia and Congress heights are pretty lame in terms of pedestrian vibrancy.
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Old 06-26-2015, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Those neighborhoods are slow, auto-centric (Congress Heights is anyway), and don't see that much pedestrian traffic. If you had said somewhere like Petworth or Brightwood, that would have made more sense, but Anacostia and Congress heights are pretty lame in terms of pedestrian vibrancy.
I explained what I meant. I was talking about people hanging out on the streets in front of buildings or in better terms, loitering. I wasn't talking about people walking through the neighborhood. A residential street in Anacostia is way more vibrant especially during the middle of the day than places in most cities. It's because people don't have jobs so they sit in front of their buildings.
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Old 06-26-2015, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I explained what I meant. I was talking about people hanging out on the streets in front of buildings or in better terms, loitering. I wasn't talking about people walking through the neighborhood. A residential street in Anacostia is way more vibrant especially during the middle of the day than places in most cities. It's because people don't have jobs so they sit in front of their buildings.
This may be the funniest sh*t I've heard in a long time. Can I frame this?

Detroit must be one of the most vibrant places on earth. There's a lot of that going on there.
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Old 06-26-2015, 04:33 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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It's as dense. So that's a wash. Now where do transit, car ownership rates and urban design come into play?
It comes in disfavor to LA for that central area, but what then comes in favor is that there are a lot of nodes of urban places nearby connected by urban corridors. In the end, the criteria isn't very straightforward, but a more general view puts LA somewhere in that tier that is separate from US cities that cluster closer together in tiers below.
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Old 06-26-2015, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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It comes in disfavor to LA for that central area, but what then comes in favor is that there are a lot of nodes of urban places nearby connected by urban corridors. In the end, the criteria isn't very straightforward, but a more general view puts LA somewhere in that tier that is separate from US cities that cluster closer together in tiers below.
I'm just kinda going back and forth here. It is true that L.A. smashes DC into the ground in terms of residential density. But it is equally true that DC smashes L.A. into the ground in terms of CBD size and transit-orientation, and total walking commuters. On a pound for pound basis, DC even beats Chicago here with greater volume coming out of its busiest metro stations in its downtown core. The question is whether LA's greater residential density trumps that. Some might say yes, but others might say that DC offers a lifestyle and core rush hour pedestrian crush that's more similar to NYC, which they view as a standard for "urban."
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Old 06-26-2015, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Prince George's County, Maryland
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I explained what I meant. I was talking about people hanging out on the streets in front of buildings or in better terms, loitering. I wasn't talking about people walking through the neighborhood. A residential street in Anacostia is way more vibrant especially during the middle of the day than places in most cities. It's because people don't have jobs so they sit in front of their buildings.
+2 Fairlawn got a decent amount of people walking about around Pennsylvania Ave leading towards the Sousa Bridge. Same with parts of Minnesota Ave NE.
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Old 06-26-2015, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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+2 Fairlawn got a decent amount of people walking about around Pennsylvania Ave leading towards the Sousa Bridge. Same with parts of Minnesota Ave NE.
I don't know what a "decent amount of people" is but I'm guessing about two. These areas are relatively auto-centric and downtrodden. Though the intersection of Benning and Minnesota does see *some* traffic since it is close to a metro station.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDEvzI9Ve1g

But hey, maybe this guy just caught the bridge on a bad day.
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Old 06-26-2015, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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This may be the funniest sh*t I've heard in a long time. Can I frame this?

Detroit must be one of the most vibrant places on earth. There's a lot of that going on there.
Throw Richmond, CA into that mix too. So many people with nothing to do!
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Old 06-26-2015, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Prince George's County, Maryland
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Throw Richmond, CA into that mix too. So many people with nothing to do!
Brownsville and East New York too!
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