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Originally Posted by bigstick
LMAO I have been to PHX. Please compare a suburb of PHX to Atlanta's lush greenery?
Atlanta the best sunsets said no one ever. The tree canopies in Atlanta's neighborhoods are beautiful, but they also hinder the views and the sky. Driving around the Valley of the Sun seeing mountain ranges scattered in each direction being shaded purple at sunset with a big desert sky at dusk is nothing short of memorizing. Driving around metro Atlanta freeways outside of the urban eye candy is generally well....trees...yeah, trees, trees, trees. Gets a bit dull. In Phoenix I also love the unique and varied Sonoran desert vegetation of saguaro cacti covered hillsides and all the mature date palms planted around the valley. Say what you will about the city of Phoenix or its suburbs, but the Valley is in a stunning geographical setting.
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Atlanta handily wins everything except maybe safety and scenery. And maybe suburbs, but who really cares about that?
Well, considering that a heavy majority of people who live in the Atlanta metro actually live in the suburbs and not the city of Atlanta, I would imagine that a majority of people in the Atlanta metro care about that. Make sense?
Atlanta ... and it's not even close (as the poll indicates).
says the person from atlanta. I guarantee that 20 of the 22 votes are people from the SUBURBS of atlanta lol. On a side note, it's kinda funny that Mesa(a suburb of Phoenix), has more people than atlanta city proper.
Well, considering that a heavy majority of people who live in the Atlanta metro actually live in the suburbs and not the city of Atlanta, I would imagine that a majority of people in the Atlanta metro care about that. Make sense?
I think he means on this forum where most people care more about and put more weight on central cities. But I agree that we shouldn't be so dismissive towards suburbs.
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Originally Posted by i'm not a cookie
says the person from atlanta. I guarantee that 20 of the 22 votes are people from the SUBURBS of atlanta lol. On a side note, it's kinda funny that Mesa(a suburb of Phoenix), has more people than atlanta city proper.
I'm pretty sure this thread is comparing the entire metropolitan areas and not just the cities proper though. I mean if Atlanta was 500+ square miles, it would have a population of over 1 million too.
Well, considering that a heavy majority of people who live in the Atlanta metro actually live in the suburbs and not the city of Atlanta, I would imagine that a majority of people in the Atlanta metro care about that. Make sense?
Sunbelt suburbs are mostly the same and fairly indistinguishable from one another. A typical suburban experience in Atlanta isn't going to be considerably different from one in Phoenix, except that instead of rolling hills and trees, you get mountains and saguaro. I don't believe suburbs are an important point of comparison when comparing two sunbelt cities, unless they have something unique to offer (i.e. Decatur, GA). They very rarely contribute to the urban fabric of a city.
Sunbelt suburbs are mostly the same and fairly indistinguishable from one another. A typical suburban experience in Atlanta isn't going to be considerably different from one in Phoenix, except that instead of rolling hills and trees, you get mountains and saguaro. I don't believe suburbs are an important point of comparison when comparing two sunbelt cities, unless they have something unique to offer (i.e. Decatur, GA). They very rarely contribute to the urban fabric of a city.
You also have edge cities, college towns, historical areas, areas with unique geographical features, ethnic enclaves, etc. So in that context, places like Sandy Springs, Dunwoody, Kennesaw, Stone Mountain, Peachtree City, Vinings, Chattahoochee Hills (Serenbe), Norcross, etc. are all definitely assets for Atlanta.
You also have edge cities, college towns, historical areas, areas with unique geographical features, ethnic enclaves, etc. So in that context, places like Sandy Springs, Dunwoody, Kennesaw, Stone Mountain, Peachtree City, Vinings, Chattahoochee Hills (Serenbe), Norcross, etc. are all definitely assets for Atlanta.
Good point. I don't completely discount the suburbs, but the unique assets are still relatively few and far between, IMO. I personally don't view Sandy Springs, Dunwoody, or Atlanta's other edge cities as assets, as they siphon jobs and amenities away from the core and create unnecessary sprawl.
Who effin cares about lush greenery? I wouldnt have moved here if I wasnt a fan of desert scenery. And IMO, Scottsdale, with its mountains, lakes, cacti, impeccable streets, world class shopping/dining, arts, etc, blows away anything I saw in ATL's burbs. And who cares how about age? Scottsdale is plenty old, bub. I prefer western cowboy and Native American history to ATL's history.
Well, that's your opinion-- you're entitled to it. But being on a discussion board, I'm entitled to tell you that Phoenix doesn't want it with Atlanta, and you know it.
Pound for pound, Buckhead is a little too much for Scottsdale. Now, yes, you do have Paradise Valley, but North Fulton ain't hurting.
City to city, Atlanta stands head and shoulders above Phoenix.
I will still admit that Phoenix is a fun place to be, but the only thing PXH blows is dust bowls. It can't come for any of the major metropolitan areas on the Eastern Seaboard.
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